River Valley joins TVC, who is next?

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I think the TVC needs to keep the Ohio or whatever division they are in competative for them. Hopefully Alex, Wellston, and Athens stay good or in the future they could listen to other offers.


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(If) Logan and Chillicothe go to the MSL and the SEOAL folds.

TVC Ohio
Vinton County
Meigs
Nelsonville York
Wellston
River Valley
Alexander
Athens
Warren

TVC Hocking
Federal Hocking
Miller
Waterford
Southern
Eastern
Trimble
Belpre
Wahama

SOC 3
Jackson
Gallipolis
Wheelersburg
Portmouth
Portsmouth West
Minford
Waverly
Ironton

SOC 2
Lucasville Valley
Northwest
Oak Hill
South Point
Coal Grove
Chesapeake
Fairland
Rock Hill

SOC 1
Symmes Valley
Franklin Furnace Green
Sciotoville East
Portsmouth Notre Dame
South Gallia
South Webster
Portsmouth Clay
New Boston
Latham Western
Beaver Eastern
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The SOC is too small for Gallia and Jackson. Ironton will stay independent. I do not see the TVC inviting Warren. I think the SEOAL will be around, even if it is 4 schools, Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, and Gallia.


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I don't understand why people think that Jackson and Gallia are too big for the SOC. We already play against many of those schools in a variety of sports. We are roughly the same size as Vinton Co based on the number of boys (last count i saw) yet we seem to get thrown out on an island by ourselves. Maybe i looked at it wrong but i thought JHS & GHS were two of the smaller schools in the SEOAL when compared to Logan, Warren, Marietta and Chillicothe.


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based on old numbers...

Jackson 301
Gallia 268
Waverly 253
Portsmouth 204
P West 180
Minford 169
Wburg 150

Yes we would be the top dog based on numbers but you are looking at some really strong sports programs and i would be surprised if we dominated any of these teams in any sport.


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indianabuck wrote:The SOC is too small for Gallia and Jackson. Ironton will stay independent. I do not see the TVC inviting Warren. I think the SEOAL will be around, even if it is 4 schools, Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, and Gallia.
If Warren wants in they will get the votes.


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I think with the changes in our economy its time to look at whats best for our schools and not "who can we allow in to beat up". I applaud the TVC for allowing Athens to join considering the size difference and i think Warren would be another great addition. They may be tough to handle some years but i'd rather have my heart broke now and again than watch 40-0 blowouts and then hit the playoffs(if you're lucky) for a one and done.


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ironmen1987 wrote:I think with the changes in our economy its time to look at whats best for our schools and not "who can we allow in to beat up". I applaud the TVC for allowing Athens to join considering the size difference and i think Warren would be another great addition. They may be tough to handle some years but i'd rather have my heart broke now and again than watch 40-0 blowouts and then hit the playoffs(if you're lucky) for a one and done.
I agree 100%


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another thing the TVC needs to think about that far in the future is if Gov Elect Kasich desides to push for consolidation to save money. You could possibly lose 3-5 current TVC Hocking schools.


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Don't be suprised if that happens. Ohio could be another WV with one school per county, lol.

On a serious note, Shadyside may be forced to consolidate with Bellaire sooner rather than later since the R.E. Burger power plant, which supplies SHS with nearly a half-million per year in tax dollars, is shutting down at end of year. Wow, that'd be sumpn' too.


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"...The SOC is too small for Gallia and Jackson. Ironton will stay independent. I do not see the TVC inviting Warren. I think the SEOAL will be around, even if it is 4 schools, Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, and Gallia..."

A 4 team SEOAL would stink for many sports, because that would mean some championship events might only have 1 team competing.


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Let's say Logan and Chilli go to the MSL... Does Ironton come back with: Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, Galia, and what other "bigger" school(s)? Try to get a league of 6 ?


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surfsider wrote:Don't be suprised if that happens. Ohio could be another WV with one school per county, lol.

On a serious note, Shadyside may be forced to consolidate with Bellaire sooner rather than later since the R.E. Burger power plant, which supplies SHS with nearly a half-million per year in tax dollars, is shutting down at end of year. Wow, that'd be sumpn' too.
WVA has 1 district per county but a lot of the county's have multiple high schools


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Orange and Brown wrote:
surfsider wrote:Don't be suprised if that happens. Ohio could be another WV with one school per county, lol.

On a serious note, Shadyside may be forced to consolidate with Bellaire sooner rather than later since the R.E. Burger power plant, which supplies SHS with nearly a half-million per year in tax dollars, is shutting down at end of year. Wow, that'd be sumpn' too.
WVA has 1 district per county but a lot of the county's have multiple high schools
One BOE and one superintendent, but two or asst superintendents.

I've waiting to see when Shadyside/Bellaire and Bridgeport/Martins Ferry consolidated. Southeast Ohio WILL look like West Virginia SOON.


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55Buckeyes98 wrote:Let's say Logan and Chilli go to the MSL... Does Ironton come back with: Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, Galia, and what other "bigger" school(s)? Try to get a league of 6 ?
Athens


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Dundas wrote:
55Buckeyes98 wrote:Let's say Logan and Chilli go to the MSL... Does Ironton come back with: Warren, Portsmouth, Jackson, Galia, and what other "bigger" school(s)? Try to get a league of 6 ?
Athens
Athens is pretty happy in the TVC. League games are close and they get treated better than they did in the SEOAL


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gahs4ever wrote:How do you "treat someone better?"

For years SEOAL championships went through Athens; especially in basketball. Every hear of Charlie MacAfee? The gym is named after him. You dont name gyms for people who arent successful or have a lot of money...lol.

There are a variety of sports Athens would compete VERY WELL in the SEOAL right now; among them baseball, golf, wrestling, soccer, and the last coupld of years even football and basketball.

So what does it mean when you say the SEOAL didnt treat Athens very well?
Every team in the league couldn't wait to play Athens in Football so they could run the score up on them. JV and Varsity. Thats the truth. I watched Jackson throw 3 TD passes in the 4th quarter of a blowout against Athens. They were all three deep balls to. Don't tell me Athens wasn't treated like crap. They were a doormat in Football except for the couple years when Gregory was there. Every league game against Athens was used as a chance to biuld up stats. I know in your world the SEOAL would never do such a thing but it is the truth.


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I don't know of any Athens fan, coach or administrator that wants to leave the TVC. I don't think it will happen.

I never even hear any posters on here from Athens ever say they want out of the TVC.

If a team is going to move from one league to another, there has to be some sort of consensus - at least among administrators - for it to happen.


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Orange and Brown wrote:
gahs4ever wrote:How do you "treat someone better?"

For years SEOAL championships went through Athens; especially in basketball. Every hear of Charlie MacAfee? The gym is named after him. You dont name gyms for people who arent successful or have a lot of money...lol.

There are a variety of sports Athens would compete VERY WELL in the SEOAL right now; among them baseball, golf, wrestling, soccer, and the last coupld of years even football and basketball.

So what does it mean when you say the SEOAL didnt treat Athens very well?
Every team in the league couldn't wait to play Athens in Football so they could run the score up on them. JV and Varsity. Thats the truth. I watched Jackson throw 3 TD passes in the 4th quarter of a blowout against Athens. They were all three deep balls to. Don't tell me Athens wasn't treated like crap. They were a doormat in Football except for the couple years when Gregory was there. Every league game against Athens was used as a chance to biuld up stats. I know in your world the SEOAL would never do such a thing but it is the truth.
When did this happen? I saw a lot of Jackson/Athens games from mid 80's thru 03 or so and I guarantee it never happened then. Would be really surprised if it happened after that also.


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Marietta come back? Who else is there?


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