Minford Falcons @ Northwest Mohawks

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:21 am

With Northwest losing to Huntington Ross, things must not be good out there. As it's obvious to everyone in the area this game does absolutely nothing for either program, I really do hope this is the last year these two teams will play. No other SOCII programs are playing teams like this.........

Kenraken Ahta · Post by **Kenraken Ahta** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:28 pm

Jorge Sandusky wrote:Until the Mohawks get rid of that offense they will continue to be embarassed. They have had more talent than all three teams they have faced. It is so sad watching them struggle. They should have had a legit chance to win 7 this year but now that is down the drain. I think its time to clean house and start over. They started over with the schedule so maybe it would benefit the program from starting completely fresh next year in all aspects of the program.

In defense of the choice of the offensive scheme the Mohawks have in place, I do believe it is actually a direct reflection of the lack of talent. Offensive line big and slow, thus the wedge style offense with virtually no splits between linemen. No star running back. A few years ago they had the talented Brown kid who could make things happen with his speed and agility. No star quarterback who can hurt you running as well as passing. No star receivers plus poor offensive line play equals no passing game. Defense played pretty well in the first two games, then fell apart against a team that had not won a game in a couple of years. I mean I have heard people talking about parents that they know who have kids in the elementary planning to move them to a neighboring school starting in middle school to be a part of a good football program? The clock is fast running out on football at Northwest High School. JMHO.....................

4thgoal · Post by **4thgoal** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:18 pm

Kenraken Ahta wrote:The clock is fast running out on football at Northwest High School. JMHO.....................

I think you are right on the money with this statement. Maybe 2 years in the SOCI, and if there is not notable improvement shown, the plug could be pulled.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:00 pm

4th n Goal wrote:
Kenraken Ahta wrote:The clock is fast running out on football at Northwest High School. JMHO.....................
I think you are right on the money with this statement. Maybe 2 years in the SOCI, and if there is not notable improvement shown, the plug could be pulled.

I'm sure Minford would try and find a way to keep them on the schedule.

nutronron2012 · Post by **nutronron2012** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:19 pm

Last time that Northwest was competitive was when Dick Tipton was the Coach. I believe that was in the mid 90's. Dont seem like 20 years ago but i guess it was

big_fella · Post by **big_fella** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:41 pm

big_fella · Post by **big_fella** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:42 pm

Vlad you do realize this schedule was made about 3 years ago when we were div 5! All you do is complain about the schedule there's a lot of different factors to why they are on the schedule. We tried to go get some KY teams but none would come play us. So stop putting down the program every chance you get and stop holding a grudge because you're not apart of the program anymore get over it. It's really getting old bud.

marshallman · Post by **marshallman** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:11 pm

I know 2 years ago Minford and NW were both 7-0 going in to the last game of the year as 8th graders and Minford won 30-0 but NW did have a great team then. They would all be sophomores now? I wonder where they all went or maybe NW plays them all and they are a young team.

philbilly · Post by **philbilly** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:14 pm

Northwest losing has nothing to do with their offence. Clinton Massie runs an offence as basic as Northwest's and they have won back to back state titles. When all that a community has known is losing, righting the ship is nearly an impossible task. If you want to win, then you have to do what winners do. What does Valley and Burg do? Clinton Massie, Coldwater, Marion Local are all successful. Go see what they are doing and do it. Take no advice from people within that have never known success, and especially don't listen to the people in the bleachers. The kids are losing, their parents lost, their Grandparent lost. None of these people are qualified to give any input on what it takes to be successful.

philbilly · Post by **philbilly** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:44 pm

P.S. Success at the pee wee level does not count. Everyone knows that the pee wee coach with the best most physically developed players win. The average pee wee coach would be lucky to win a game coaching at the high school level.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:27 pm

Falconfan09 wrote:Vlad you do realize this schedule was made about 3 years ago when we were div 5! All you do is complain about the schedule there's a lot of different factors to why they are on the schedule. We tried to go get some KY teams but none would come play us. So stop putting down the program every chance you get and stop holding a grudge because you're not apart of the program anymore get over it. It's really getting old bud.

Isn't it funny that all the other SOCII teams were able to drop NW and find someone else except Minford?? Do you realize that? What does us being D5 three years ago have anything to do with us keeping a program like NW around? I'm sorry if this hits a nerve with you but I smell total BS, and if you think keeping NW around is taking the program in the right direction, then we both have different opinions of the right direction. If Minford keeps this up then mark my words, they will become the new NW of the SOCII.

IMO, playing teams like that is taking the program in the wrong direction, so why keep playing them? Seriously, what good does it do playing programs like this? Once all the math settles out at the end of the year, you'll see that playing teams like this also will hurt you playoff wise. Going forward, I hope we don't continue to keep them around. If there's some sort of grudge to be held, that's news to me.

As I don't want to seem like I'm not in support of the Falcons, the rest of what I have to say to you is in a PM.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:09 pm

Falconfan09 wrote:Re: Minford Falcons @ Northwest Mohawks

I would love to see that Jackson series even if we lose or win that game. it will bring great experience for the playoffs and it could be happening in the near future the Jr high program started a series this year with eachother.
Forum: Football by Falconfan09September 15th, 2014, 9:46 pm Topic: Minford Falcons @ Northwest MohawksReplies: 30Views: 764

It seems you're talking about the same thing here.

big_fella · Post by **big_fella** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:18 pm

It doesn't strike a nerve because we didn't really have a choice but put them on the schedule again when Portsmouth dropped us we couldn't find anyone else to fill it. Every team we asked wouldn't do it so and we will never be the northwest of the league and us being div 5 we made this schedule has a lot to do with it all the schools we scheduled were close to is in division. Now since the recount every team has changed so it makes it look worse. Grandview will make the playoffs PV will win Their conference it hasn't been that bad of a schedule if you take NW and RockHill out of it.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:27 pm

PHS played us in 2012 & 2013 for a two year contract, and decided not to renew in 2013 for the '14 season to pick up Waverly. You say this decision was made 3-yrs ago, and it's something we couldn't back out of.....? I'll just leave it at that.

Hey I agree it is what it is now, so there's no use in complaining about it. I'm just saying going forward, Minford needs to have an open date rather than play these guys. This game makes no sense on many levels.

So then you agree, going forward 2015 and beyond, Minford should NOT have NW on the schedule?

cghs82 · Post by **cghs82** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:04 am

Looking at Minford's future football schedule, Minford plays Northwest for at least 2 more years after this week. I'd start getting used to week 4 blowouts Minford. As for future scheduling, I think Oak Hill should stay, if they remain in SOC I, since it's a rivalry game that fills the stadiums every year. Gallia Academy was a nice addition and maybe rotating between Gallia Academy and Jackson every 2 years (starting on odd years) would be matchups against the SEOAL. I personally would like to see Minford replace Paint Valley with Unioto. Unioto is D-IV and is currently a contender in the SVC. Nothing against Paint Valley, they are a great team and a SVC contender this year as well, but Minford doesn't need to be scheduling D-VII schools. Maybe try a rotation with Ironton and Portsmouth or Fairland (if Portsmouth doesn't) every 2 years (starting on even years) against the OVC. That would leave 2 non-conference games (regardless of Oak Hill's SOC division) open to schedule someone, that ought to D-III - D-V. Just a thought.

cghs82 · Post by **cghs82** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:00 am

And as for Northwest's scheduling, keep Southeastern, keep Rock Hill, keep Huntington, add Manchester instead of Minford, and if Oak Hill moves to SOC II, maybe keep River Valley.

knowledge · Post by **knowledge** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:40 am

I think Paint Valley is better than most on here think. I see them being very capable for contention in the SVC and winning around 7 games or more. As for this game, I wish Coach Brooks Fry and the Mohawks all the luck in the world in rebuilding that program, except for this week. Also don't be surprised if SP helps Minford's playoff cause by winning 5 or 6 games by the time it's all said and done. Hopefully the Falcons tune-up some things on offense and defense and stay healthy for the gauntlet which starts vs Oak Hill and continues the rest of the season with the exception of Rock Hill.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:11 pm

I don't have a problem with Paint Valley, Oak Hill, Grandview, nor the South Point games. Against PV, Minford had to come from being down 14 to win a shootout in the 4th quarter. That should be what we want is to be challenged for 4 quarters, so when we get into the SOCII we're ready. At Grandview, we had turnovers, senseless penalties and we were made to pay dearly for it. That's what happens when you play good teams. I just feel that us playing NW is all about padding the stats and not about challenging ourselves.

The Oaf · Post by **The Oaf** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:28 pm

I'm not so sure I'm buying the "Paint Valley is a good football team and is poised to win their league" argument. That conference is terrible, anyone can recognize that it is comparable to the SOC I. Anyway you slice it, that is a terrible level of football. Minford needs to step up and schedule a Jackson/Gallia Academy type teams to prepare them for conference and post season play.

cghs82 · Post by **cghs82** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:55 pm

Yes, Paint Valley-Minford was a great game and that 1st quarter really surprised me, but what if Minford hadn't been able to come back or Paint Valley comes back to tie the game and win it in OT. Paint Valley returns to Bainbridge with the upset win over Minford and it'd hurt Minford's playoff chances significantly losing to a D-VII school as a D-IV school in a D-V and D-VI division of their conference. And again, no means to disrespect Paint Valley if I did so.