Division V rankings and early speculation

[The Regulator]

I made the trip down to watch Burg & Coal Grove last night. It's obvious Burg still hasn't zeroed in on a QB yet and appears they will have to rely on the run game this year but it is hard to tell anything from a 7 on 7. I was surprised by the lack of size of Burg's middle defense. For the most part there LB's looked more like safety's than LB's. If I am a heavy run offense I am licking my chops by what I saw last night. If Ironton pounds the middle I see them winning by 2 scores. The bright spot I did see for Burg last night was the Matthews kid. His closing rate on the ball is something you see on Saturday afternoons not Friday nights. Coal Grove had some impressive looking lineman I noticed when I watched them and seemed to be very strong. Good luck to both programs this year and let's hope they all stay healthy.

I can see how the linebackers may be a bit smaller than years before but the bottom line is, run defense is not solely predicated on having big line backers. The defensive line is where run defense starts and they do not have a small Dline by any means. Their job is to keep guards and tackles from getting to the second level of the defense and letting the LB's run free. If they are able to do this, they will be fine.

That is true. The d-line Burg had in 2017 was one of the most dominant d-lines I have seen for years. If Burg can get that depth back and that rotation that they had that year would be very helpful. Don't take my comment as a knock it was just an observation.

[spider2Ybanana]

I made the trip down to watch Burg & Coal Grove last night. It's obvious Burg still hasn't zeroed in on a QB yet and appears they will have to rely on the run game this year but it is hard to tell anything from a 7 on 7. I was surprised by the lack of size of Burg's middle defense. For the most part there LB's looked more like safety's than LB's. If I am a heavy run offense I am licking my chops by what I saw last night. If Ironton pounds the middle I see them winning by 2 scores. The bright spot I did see for Burg last night was the Matthews kid. His closing rate on the ball is something you see on Saturday afternoons not Friday nights. Coal Grove had some impressive looking lineman I noticed when I watched them and seemed to be very strong. Good luck to both programs this year and let's hope they all stay healthy.

I can see how the linebackers may be a bit smaller than years before but the bottom line is, run defense is not solely predicated on having big line backers. The defensive line is where run defense starts and they do not have a small Dline by any means. Their job is to keep guards and tackles from getting to the second level of the defense and letting the LB's run free. If they are able to do this, they will be fine.

That is true. The d-line Burg had in 2017 was one of the most dominant d-lines I have seen for years. If Burg can get that depth back and that rotation that they had that year would be very helpful. Don't take my comment as a knock it was just an observation.

No knock taken Regulator. Until the pads start popping and they get a couple scrimmages under their belt, there are going to be concerns/questions. I think a lot of this comes from the new faces that will be on the field, but I have a feeling by the end of the season, a few of them will make a name for themselves. One of the bright spots that I can see right now is the speed this team has. It is already clear that they are the fastest team Woodward has had top to bottom. Seems like every one of them can run.

[Bobbbbbb]

I'll take a stab at it fbnut..."we got cheated!"

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

You know Jolly, wow, that answer is right on target!

[XandO72]

I'll take a stab at it fbnut..."we got cheated!"

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

Shew. when you guys cherry pick, form your own narratives, and then run with them, you sure don't leave any nonsensical or baseless conclusion unturned do ya? Pump ya breaks. Read to understand instead of to reply first. Go all the way back to the beginning.

1st = EG: "on paper" per op.
2nd: and again, no conclusions are asserted. Only factual observation.
3rd. Said observations: Ironton/Burg = comparable depth, Ironton will be the more experienced of the two AND, Ironton has the more elite individual talent, are all factual statements, but no conclusion is derived from them.

Lastly: burg fans should be concerned = logical. Any time variables shift or change, probability of a changed outcome increases.

Deep breaths. Lol. Too much small town innuendo & water cooler folklore instead of genuine attempts to see the game for what it is rather than what you want it to be or not be.

[Gone Country]

I'll take a stab at it fbnut..."we got cheated!"

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

I hope not jolly. I think we have a keeper. tiger fans have been around long enough not to put much stock in preseason polls. we feel coach Pendleton is the real deal. and now he is our ad. so somebody is seeing big things from him. it's exciting to be excited.

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

[laser breath]

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

I hope not jolly. I think we have a keeper. tiger fans have been around long enough not to put much stock in preseason polls. we feel coach Pendleton is the real deal. and now he is our ad. so somebody is seeing big things from him. it's exciting to be excited.

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

I’m sure he will. But who cares? Can anyone name the burgs ad or Jackson or Minford or waverly? ADs are about scheduling games, and make ups, and taking care of money and security. They honestly don’t have time for much more than that. I still can’t believe they are going to let a coach do it.

[Jolly P(irate)]

I'll take a stab at it fbnut..."we got cheated!"

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

Shew. when you guys cherry pick, form your own narratives, and then run with them, you sure don't leave any nonsensical or baseless conclusion unturned do ya? Pump ya breaks. Read to understand instead of to reply first. Go all the way back to the beginning.

1st = EG: "on paper" per op.
2nd: and again, no conclusions are asserted. Only factual observation.
3rd. Said observations: Ironton/Burg = comparable depth, Ironton will be the more experienced of the two AND, Ironton has the more elite individual talent, are all factual statements, but no conclusion is derived from them.

Lastly: burg fans should be concerned = logical. Any time variables shift or change, probability of a changed outcome increases.

Deep breaths. Lol. Too much small town innuendo & water cooler folklore instead of genuine attempts to see the game for what it is rather than what you want it to be or not be.

You keep talking about variables changing. That's cool and all but you guys have no clue what these mysterious changing variables will profit the Tigers in week 1. There could be variables changing the variables that have changed causing more variables to change.

My point is, this is a game between high school kids. You can't logically sit behind a keyboard in your parent's basement soaking up all the free wifi and expect to type it into existence.

If Burg scores first, I want to see how Ironton responds. That's a variable I'd like to see. If Burg stretches the lead to 2 tds late in the 4th, that's the variable I'd like to see. We know how Burg responds to adversity. But Ironton has the past 6-7 years of taking beatings they have to get past. Will they fold? I hope not.

[Gone Country]

I hope not jolly. I think we have a keeper. tiger fans have been around long enough not to put much stock in preseason polls. we feel coach Pendleton is the real deal. and now he is our ad. so somebody is seeing big things from him. it's exciting to be excited.

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

I’m sure he will. But who cares? Can anyone name the burgs ad or Jackson or Minford or waverly? ADs are about scheduling


games, and make ups, and taking care of money and security. They honestly don’t have time for much more than that. I still can’t believe they are going to let a coach do it.

Hide and watch. He will turn Ironton sports around. You might not care to admit it but leadership is what has been missing not talent amongst the kids, it has always been there. Buy yourself a ticket!

[laser breath]

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

I’m sure he will. But who cares? Can anyone name the burgs ad or Jackson or Minford or waverly? ADs are about scheduling


games, and make ups, and taking care of money and security. They honestly don’t have time for much more than that. I still can’t believe they are going to let a coach do it.

Hide and watch. He will turn Ironton sports around. You might not care to admit it but leadership is what has been missing not talent amongst the kids, it has always been there. Buy yourself a ticket!

You have no idea what an ad does.

[Gone Country]

I’m sure he will. But who cares? Can anyone name the burgs ad or Jackson or Minford or waverly? ADs are about scheduling


games, and make ups, and taking care of money and security. They honestly don’t have time for much more than that. I still can’t believe they are going to let a coach do it.

Hide and watch. He will turn Ironton sports around. You might not care to admit it but leadership is what has been missing not talent amongst the kids, it has always been there. Buy yourself a ticket!

You have no idea what an ad does.

Like I said "....hide and watch" , meaning if he is successful or not.

[laser breath]

Hide and watch. He will turn Ironton sports around. You might not care to admit it but leadership is what has been missing not talent amongst the kids, it has always been there. Buy yourself a ticket!

You have no idea what an ad does.

Like I said "....hide and watch" , meaning if he is successful or not.

Like I said, you have no idea what a high school ad does. Let me tell you what they do. They schedule games. They reschedule make ups. They make sure gate workers are there to collect money for all high school events, volleyball, etc. They usually have to be the administrator in charge at all games in case there’s an emergency like they ran out of pizza or a fan needs thrown out. They oversee to make sure all rules of eligibility are being met. They have to hire officials. Find replacements for no shows. Make sure the lights are on and off after events. That’s just the things I know of. I’m sure there are plenty more. It’s not like you think, going around making sure the x and os are being lined up. Again it’s a tedious job, which it baffles me that they hired a full time head coach to do it. Especially when it seemed to cause problems the last time according to some on here

[XandO72]

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

Shew. when you guys cherry pick, form your own narratives, and then run with them, you sure don't leave any nonsensical or baseless conclusion unturned do ya? Pump ya breaks. Read to understand instead of to reply first. Go all the way back to the beginning.

1st = EG: "on paper" per op.
2nd: and again, no conclusions are asserted. Only factual observation.
3rd. Said observations: Ironton/Burg = comparable depth, Ironton will be the more experienced of the two AND, Ironton has the more elite individual talent, are all factual statements, but no conclusion is derived from them.

Lastly: burg fans should be concerned = logical. Any time variables shift or change, probability of a changed outcome increases.

Deep breaths. Lol. Too much small town innuendo & water cooler folklore instead of genuine attempts to see the game for what it is rather than what you want it to be or not be.

You keep talking about variables changing. That's cool and all but you guys have no clue what these mysterious changing variables will profit the Tigers in week 1. There could be variables changing the variables that have changed causing more variables to change.

My point is, this is a game between high school kids. You can't logically sit behind a keyboard in your parent's basement soaking up all the free wifi and expect to type it into existence.

If Burg scores first, I want to see how Ironton responds. That's a variable I'd like to see. If Burg stretches the lead to 2 tds late in the 4th, that's the variable I'd like to see. We know how Burg responds to adversity. But Ironton has the past 6-7 years of taking beatings they have to get past. Will they fold? I hope not.

See, you did it again.

"If burg scores first and blah blah blah Why do you feel compelled to narrate these fictitious scenarios in your head? Read what I am saying instead of focusing on your emotions. It's not that deep.

[XandO72]

You have no idea what an ad does.

Like I said "....hide and watch" , meaning if he is successful or not.

Like I said, you have no idea what a high school ad does. Let me tell you what they do. They schedule games. They reschedule make ups. They make sure gate workers are there to collect money for all high school events, volleyball, etc. They usually have to be the administrator in charge at all games in case there’s an emergency like they ran out of pizza or a fan needs thrown out. They oversee to make sure all rules of eligibility are being met. They have to hire officials. Find replacements for no shows. Make sure the lights are on and off after events. That’s just the things I know of. I’m sure there are plenty more. It’s not like you think, going around making sure the x and os are being lined up. Again it’s a tedious job, which it baffles me that they hired a full time head coach to do it. Especially when it seemed to cause problems the last time according to some on here

Actually this guy is an idiot.

Athletic Directors manage the personnel needs. They also manage logistics - equiptment orders etc, promotion/fundraising, scheduling/event coord. They have to manage adherence to policy and policy changes throughout their department and various staff, etc etc on and on.

And at the prep level most AD's have AT least a BA.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Ironton, even in their lean years after Lutz, has always had the raw talent to compete with anybody in SE Ohio. It just took a head coach like Pendleton to re-energize and develop the Tiger talent. As for Wheelersburg, under Coach Woodward, they reload instead of rebuild, so shed no tears for the Pirates who could potentially lose (gasp) three games due to an upgraded non conference schedule. The bottom line is that when Ironton and The Burg are competitive, it elevates the brand of high school football in our part of the state.

awesome post, and I agree.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Ironton lost 3 straight games to end the season. Burg got to state again

Yeah and both teams ended their season losing to the Johnnies, 1 played a close game and 1 literally got ran out of the stadium. Good thing it's 2019 season and quite frankly preseason rankings don't mean anything, simply something for people to talk about. Wins and computer points is what matters, that's what gets you into week 11 and work towards every teams end goal of a state title.

goose, you is gonna have every pirate on here chasin after you. the good news is ole bait might get a break in the action. we tiger fans cain't talk about the past. just the burgers can.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

I'll take a stab at it fbnut..."we got cheated!"

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

KEEP ON SQWAKKIN BOYS, IT IS JUST GONNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH SWEETER IF IRONTON UPSETS BURG. NO MATTER WHAT THE RANKINGS SAY. IT WOULD BE AN UPSET, AND EVERYBODY THAT KNOWS ANYTHING KNOWS THAT.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

No. They'll be taking shots at Pendleton and how he's a failure. That's what they always do. Last year they didn't expect to win and were, for the first time, taking positives from the game. Now, in the second year, that will all change back to the bashing of the HC.

I hope not jolly. I think we have a keeper. tiger fans have been around long enough not to put much stock in preseason polls. we feel coach Pendleton is the real deal. and now he is our ad. so somebody is seeing big things from him. it's exciting to be excited.

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

I agree country. I find him very fair, integral, intelligent, highly motivated. and I think he will be very decisive n fair. and a great acquisition for ironton high and fighting tiger sports for many years to come. he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is all in with fighting tiger sports. and him being the ad should be exciting for ironton, and the ovc.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Trevon in place as AD has nothing at all to do with success (or failure for that matter) of the football season. I can assure you he got the AD job believing he will be fair and equitable to all kids and programs at IHS regardless. He is a high quality individual who has the very best plan and intentions for ALL, athletes, school and parents regardless of what sport is involved. Write that down.

I’m sure he will. But who cares? Can anyone name the burgs ad or Jackson or Minford or waverly? ADs are about scheduling


games, and make ups, and taking care of money and security. They honestly don’t have time for much more than that. I still can’t believe they are going to let a coach do it.

Hide and watch. He will turn Ironton sports around. You might not care to admit it but leadership is what has been missing not talent amongst the kids, it has always been there. Buy yourself a ticket!

AMEN BROTHER, THE TALENT HAS BEEN THERE AND THE LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT WAS WHAT WAS MISSING. WE ALL SAW IT. THOSE TIDES HAVE TURNED.

[Jolly P(irate)]

Shew. when you guys cherry pick, form your own narratives, and then run with them, you sure don't leave any nonsensical or baseless conclusion unturned do ya? Pump ya breaks. Read to understand instead of to reply first. Go all the way back to the beginning.

1st = EG: "on paper" per op.
2nd: and again, no conclusions are asserted. Only factual observation.
3rd. Said observations: Ironton/Burg = comparable depth, Ironton will be the more experienced of the two AND, Ironton has the more elite individual talent, are all factual statements, but no conclusion is derived from them.

Lastly: burg fans should be concerned = logical. Any time variables shift or change, probability of a changed outcome increases.

Deep breaths. Lol. Too much small town innuendo & water cooler folklore instead of genuine attempts to see the game for what it is rather than what you want it to be or not be.

You keep talking about variables changing. That's cool and all but you guys have no clue what these mysterious changing variables will profit the Tigers in week 1. There could be variables changing the variables that have changed causing more variables to change.

My point is, this is a game between high school kids. You can't logically sit behind a keyboard in your parent's basement soaking up all the free wifi and expect to type it into existence.

If Burg scores first, I want to see how Ironton responds. That's a variable I'd like to see. If Burg stretches the lead to 2 tds late in the 4th, that's the variable I'd like to see. We know how Burg responds to adversity. But Ironton has the past 6-7 years of taking beatings they have to get past. Will they fold? I hope not.

See, you did it again.

"If burg scores first and blah blah blah Why do you feel compelled to narrate these fictitious scenarios in your head? Read what I am saying instead of focusing on your emotions. It's not that deep.

Bro. Ironton MAY be good this year. Why don't you hold off until they win the lowly OVC and then we can talk. Yout act like they've already won it all. Save it for Aug. 30th. Then let's talk. I'm taking burg 28-13. What say you?

[ohbuckeye2]

Good to see the Fighting Tigers ranked up there, now, they need to go out on the field and prove they're a top 5 ranked TEAM.

Go Fighting Tigers......