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SOC2 league play

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Excited to see the league play start. I have not seen alot about some of the teams. What is everyone thinking.


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Re: SOC2 league play

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I know Minford and Waverly are thinking this is their year to finally beat Wheelersburg and claim the SOC2 crown, but are the Pirates actually wounded or just over scheduled for 2019? Da Burg has to be considered conference favorites. 21 consecutive wins and five straight SOC2 championships give the Pirates at least a psychological edge.


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As far as the SOC-2 is concerned, The Burg has owned it for so many years, ( Other than Valley for a few years ) that most Non-Burg fans are just waiting and hoping that this might be the year that they can finely be knocked off the top. As I said before, I'm not a Burg fan, I just like good football, and 95% of the time that's what you get when watching them play. Not trying to upset any Burg fans, but after watching them 2 times this year, I don't think they are as good as in past years. They could very well be 1-4 instead of 2-3 at this point of the season. But lets be fair, 3 of those schools are quite a bit larger than the Burg, and should be able to beat them most years. I know that there are mayby 3 other SOC-2 schools that are playing pretty good football this year, and are thinking and hoping that this might be the year that they can beat the Burg. Having not seen any of those 3 play,thats why I'm really looking forward to heading to Minford this Friday evening, and watching the Falcons and the Pirates get it on. Lets hope for an injury free game for both teams.


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We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries


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wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
You very well may be right, but don't sell Waverly short in the running game. Shoemaker can probably hold his own with any running back in SEO.


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VetteMan wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:29 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
You very well may be right, but don't sell Waverly short in the running game. Shoemaker can probably hold his own with any running back in SEO.
I probably should have said that differently, as I'm sure that you do know that Shoemaker is an outstanding running back.


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I am a firm believer in you are the best until you are beaten. And conference wise the Burg hasn’t been beaten by a conference team in a while so I think they are still the top dog of the SOC until they lose


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VetteMan wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:22 pm
VetteMan wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:29 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
You very well may be right, but don't sell Waverly short in the running game. Shoemaker can probably hold his own with any running back in SEO.
I probably should have said that differently, as I'm sure that you do know that Shoemaker is an outstanding running back.
I understand what you’re saying but burg probably better at defending the pass in waverlys rpo. I’m basing that off what Greenup did to Minford in the passing game. If burg can beat Minford, then they will have some momentum with their home game against waverly


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wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:03 pm
VetteMan wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:22 pm
VetteMan wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:29 pm

You very well may be right, but don't sell Waverly short in the running game. Shoemaker can probably hold his own with any running back in SEO.
I probably should have said that differently, as I'm sure that you do know that Shoemaker is an outstanding running back.
I understand what you’re saying but burg probably better at defending the pass in waverlys rpo. I’m basing that off what Greenup did to Minford in the passing game. If burg can beat Minford, then they will have some momentum with their home game against waverly
I see what you are saying, and there are a lot of variables that do come into play when considering the different matchups that will be involved.


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With Waverly getting injured players back it will come down to the availability of Shanks as to how far they can go. We saw Friday night the importance of Shanks being able to play, even if at only 60%. Fairland was taken by surprise with what Waverly did, that won't happen to Minford and Wheelersburg. Can Waverly be successful without Shanks? Yes. Can Waverly beat Minford and/or Wheelersburg with the same offensive scheme they beat Fairland with? NO. If Shanks was 100% I'd have no problem picking the Tigers to win out. If Shanks is available at 70% with everyone else healthy they will compete for the title.


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wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
Outside of greenup who just doesn't have the players around their QB, has burg faced a passing team?? I measn it's one thing to defend the pass against a team that's 80% run, and it's another to defend it against a 50/50 team with multiple 6'5" targets.


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greygoose wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:58 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
Outside of greenup who just doesn't have the players around their QB, has burg faced a passing team?? I measn it's one thing to defend the pass against a team that's 80% run, and it's another to defend it against a 50/50 team with multiple 6'5" targets.
No but I doubt there’s a QB as good as greenups. His level of throw is college level right now. If he had a better receiving Corp, he would have beat burg and Minford. His throws velocity was just different. First things first though, they’ve got to get Minford or it’s a moot point


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Going into league play I think Burg is the favorite, only because they have had so much success in the league in recent years and until someone takes them down they should be expected to repeat. It's going to be hard to predict how things will shake out until games start being played, not many teams thus far have had common opponents even. I think most people can agree that it's basically a three team race between burg, minford and Waverly. With Valley coming in close behind. I believe Valley could have easily been more in the conversation before the injury bug hit, but I wouldn't be shocked if they make some noise. For the expected top 3, I think each team has concerns around it and that's why it is so hard to predict:

Burg - IMO the team to beat, as stated earlier. They seem to have some inexperience tho. I have heard that their QB situation has been a struggle for them. Also seems their D could have trouble against the run and making tackles in general. They do have Matthews, who is a game changer as long as he stays healthy.

Minford - They seem to have a solid team this year. Their RB and QB could be a problem for defenses. Seems to be a lot of people believe that they have yet to have a true test and wonder if they are up for the challenge of capturing a league title. 5-0 is a great accomplshlment no doubt, but will it continue as the grind of league play begins.

Waverly - Coming off a game where they dominated a 5th ranked Amanda team and having momentum going into league play. They are still so many questions around this team tho. For them it will be a week to week basis on if they can contend for the title. The health of QB Shanks is the top priority for Waverly. If they can keep him healthy and continue to get others healthy each week they will compete. If not, we saw how things can get for them. Their D is a key part as well. They struggled early in the year but the past two weeks have gotten back on track. But who knows if that will continue.


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wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:20 pm
greygoose wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:58 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm We possibly could see a three way tie.

Burg defends the pass better than run. Advantage Minford vs burg, but advantage burg vs waverly and advantage waverly vs Minford

If burg beats Minford, I think they can win it out right.

Valley was in hunt until their injuries
Outside of greenup who just doesn't have the players around their QB, has burg faced a passing team?? I measn it's one thing to defend the pass against a team that's 80% run, and it's another to defend it against a 50/50 team with multiple 6'5" targets.
No but I doubt there’s a QB as good as greenups. His level of throw is college level right now. If he had a better receiving Corp, he would have beat burg and Minford. His throws velocity was just different. First things first though, they’ve got to get Minford or it’s a moot point
I agree completely they probably won't face a more talented arm than greenup. Without the are and line though there's really no telling how burg passing defense truly is. I mean you see it everywhere, a team has great stats against the run or pass, why because they're giving up the other in bunches. So if you can't stop the run then no one is going to pass, they'll be run heavy. I still like burg going into the game against Minford, minford is 5-0 but burg schedule has more than prepared them for SOC play.


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