Not sure why you're suprised at that? Who on ff did you think warranted being selected. As a collective ff was the best team around, but individually they maybe had 1 or 2 that maybe deserved to be there. Sometimes seniors have more of a chance to be 1st or 2nd teamers, thus the Shenandoah kids got it. Plus they were good players. Coach huck uses all his weapons so there isn't one kid with gaudy stats which can hurt when it comes to voting because most just look at stats. Losing teams can have players worthy of being all state. Provide a little substance on who or why you think they deserved to be all state. Saying a bias occurs isn't enoughEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:56 pmI’m not talking Rankings I’m talking the players. The fact Fort had no 1st or 2nd teamers last year was a joke. Yet 5-5 Shenandoah had 2 all state players.dilligaf wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:21 pmThere is only a couple teams in southeastern ohio who get the credit they deserve.EasternDspy wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:03 pm Fort Frye is rolling I knew they’d be better this year just wish they got the credit statewide.
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All 4 of Fort LBs were better then those 2.Ff3233 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:07 pmNot sure why you're suprised at that? Who on ff did you think warranted being selected. As a collective ff was the best team around, but individually they maybe had 1 or 2 that maybe deserved to be there. Sometimes seniors have more of a chance to be 1st or 2nd teamers, thus the Shenandoah kids got it. Plus they were good players. Coach huck uses all his weapons so there isn't one kid with gaudy stats which can hurt when it comes to voting because most just look at stats. Losing teams can have players worthy of being all state. Provide a little substance on who or why you think they deserved to be all state. Saying a bias occurs isn't enoughEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:56 pmI’m not talking Rankings I’m talking the players. The fact Fort had no 1st or 2nd teamers last year was a joke. Yet 5-5 Shenandoah had 2 all state players.dilligaf wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:21 pm
There is only a couple teams in southeastern ohio who get the credit they deserve.
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In 2016 Fort made it to the elite 8. Casey Lewis had over 2000 yards and 39 total Tds and didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. His Jr year he had like 1200 yards got 2nd team. In 2013 Chandler Lang over 36 Tds 3000 total yards didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. It’s not just stats that hold these kids back. MariettaTimes could help last year they didn’t even vote. Also I think Isiah Jones with those sacks and Dylan Hart with 150 tackles should of been on that list.Ff3233 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:07 pmNot sure why you're suprised at that? Who on ff did you think warranted being selected. As a collective ff was the best team around, but individually they maybe had 1 or 2 that maybe deserved to be there. Sometimes seniors have more of a chance to be 1st or 2nd teamers, thus the Shenandoah kids got it. Plus they were good players. Coach huck uses all his weapons so there isn't one kid with gaudy stats which can hurt when it comes to voting because most just look at stats. Losing teams can have players worthy of being all state. Provide a little substance on who or why you think they deserved to be all state. Saying a bias occurs isn't enoughEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:56 pmI’m not talking Rankings I’m talking the players. The fact Fort had no 1st or 2nd teamers last year was a joke. Yet 5-5 Shenandoah had 2 all state players.dilligaf wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:21 pm
There is only a couple teams in southeastern ohio who get the credit they deserve.
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In 2013 and 2016 fort had a pretty bad schedule may have had something to do with , last year I agree fort should have gotten more recognition, I’m sure if they make it thru the region they willEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:26 pmIn 2016 Fort made it to the elite 8. Casey Lewis had over 2000 yards and 39 total Tds and didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. His Jr year he had like 1200 yards got 2nd team. In 2013 Chandler Lang over 36 Tds 3000 total yards didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. It’s not just stats that hold these kids back. MariettaTimes could help last year they didn’t even vote. Also I think Isiah Jones with those sacks and Dylan Hart with 150 tackles should of been on that list.Ff3233 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:07 pmNot sure why you're suprised at that? Who on ff did you think warranted being selected. As a collective ff was the best team around, but individually they maybe had 1 or 2 that maybe deserved to be there. Sometimes seniors have more of a chance to be 1st or 2nd teamers, thus the Shenandoah kids got it. Plus they were good players. Coach huck uses all his weapons so there isn't one kid with gaudy stats which can hurt when it comes to voting because most just look at stats. Losing teams can have players worthy of being all state. Provide a little substance on who or why you think they deserved to be all state. Saying a bias occurs isn't enoughEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:56 pm
I’m not talking Rankings I’m talking the players. The fact Fort had no 1st or 2nd teamers last year was a joke. Yet 5-5 Shenandoah had 2 all state players.
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The voters don't know who Fort Frye played in those years. The statewide media just assume our part of the state is inferior. Also, our closest media market is in Parkersburg, West Virginia. Even as an OVAC team, the main market is Wheeling WV. Nobody really covered The PVC. If we would join The MVL, we'd get some Zanesville coverage and start to be thought of as an Eastern Ohio team instead of a "Practically in West Virginia" team.Green 50 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:32 pmIn 2013 and 2016 fort had a pretty bad schedule may have had something to do with , last year I agree fort should have gotten more recognition, I’m sure if they make it thru the region they willEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:26 pmIn 2016 Fort made it to the elite 8. Casey Lewis had over 2000 yards and 39 total Tds and didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. His Jr year he had like 1200 yards got 2nd team. In 2013 Chandler Lang over 36 Tds 3000 total yards didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. It’s not just stats that hold these kids back. MariettaTimes could help last year they didn’t even vote. Also I think Isiah Jones with those sacks and Dylan Hart with 150 tackles should of been on that list.Ff3233 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:07 pm
Not sure why you're suprised at that? Who on ff did you think warranted being selected. As a collective ff was the best team around, but individually they maybe had 1 or 2 that maybe deserved to be there. Sometimes seniors have more of a chance to be 1st or 2nd teamers, thus the Shenandoah kids got it. Plus they were good players. Coach huck uses all his weapons so there isn't one kid with gaudy stats which can hurt when it comes to voting because most just look at stats. Losing teams can have players worthy of being all state. Provide a little substance on who or why you think they deserved to be all state. Saying a bias occurs isn't enough
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Re: WK 8: Caldwell (2-5) @ Fort Frye (7-0)
I agree and I'll add if you live anywhere along the river below Shadyside to Portsmouth, up 23 to the Circleville area and East on Rt. 22 to Rt. 37 to Rt. 78 back to the Ohio River , it's a lost cause to get any statewide coverage on a regular basis. If you're on the I-70 corridor you're good even a little South but nothing more than that.efarns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:14 pmThe voters don't know who Fort Frye played in those years. The statewide media just assume our part of the state is inferior. Also, our closest media market is in Parkersburg, West Virginia. Even as an OVAC team, the main market is Wheeling WV. Nobody really covered The PVC. If we would join The MVL, we'd get some Zanesville coverage and start to be thought of as an Eastern Ohio team instead of a "Practically in West Virginia" team.Green 50 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:32 pmIn 2013 and 2016 fort had a pretty bad schedule may have had something to do with , last year I agree fort should have gotten more recognition, I’m sure if they make it thru the region they willEasternDspy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:26 pm
In 2016 Fort made it to the elite 8. Casey Lewis had over 2000 yards and 39 total Tds and didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. His Jr year he had like 1200 yards got 2nd team. In 2013 Chandler Lang over 36 Tds 3000 total yards didn’t get 1st or 2nd team. It’s not just stats that hold these kids back. MariettaTimes could help last year they didn’t even vote. Also I think Isiah Jones with those sacks and Dylan Hart with 150 tackles should of been on that list.
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Re: WK 8: Caldwell (2-5) @ Fort Frye (7-0)
Anybody that watched Chandler Lang or Casey Lewis those years knows they deserved to be on that 1st or 2nd team list. Those are 2 of the best seasons in Fort history. Anthony Winters did get 1st team all state the year he had over 20 sacks.
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Re: WK 8: Caldwell (2-5) @ Fort Frye (7-0)
Fort is known for basketball Engle, Shon Smith and Seth Legrean all got all state honors. All also were 1000 point scorers.
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Re: WK 8: Caldwell (2-5) @ Fort Frye (7-0)
Caldwell trying to drop Fort Frye off the schedule could be the last game.
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Sadly, Caldwell is dropping anyone off the schedule that is good! I love my skins, but we are simply not the program of the past. New regime is, in my opinion, pathetic at best. Run kids down, and run kids off. The program most are used to is gone.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:58 pm Caldwell trying to drop Fort Frye off the schedule could be the last game.
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CHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pmSadly, Caldwell is dropping anyone off the schedule that is good! I love my skins, but we are simply not the program of the past. New regime is, in my opinion, pathetic at best. Run kids down, and run kids off. The program most are used to is gone.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:58 pm Caldwell trying to drop Fort Frye off the schedule could be the last game.
Hired the wrong coach.
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Exactly! Even the Administration, when they hired, knew that. When one member was asked their response was “whoever we hired is going to be thrown to the wolves in a couple of years”. At least make an attempt....but that would have been too difficult. LolEasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:14 pmCHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pmSadly, Caldwell is dropping anyone off the schedule that is good! I love my skins, but we are simply not the program of the past. New regime is, in my opinion, pathetic at best. Run kids down, and run kids off. The program most are used to is gone.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:58 pm Caldwell trying to drop Fort Frye off the schedule could be the last game.
Hired the wrong coach.
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CHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:23 pmExactly! Even the Administration, when they hired, knew that. When one member was asked their response was “whoever we hired is going to be thrown to the wolves in a couple of years”. At least make an attempt....but that would have been too difficult. LolEasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:14 pmCHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pm
Sadly, Caldwell is dropping anyone off the schedule that is good! I love my skins, but we are simply not the program of the past. New regime is, in my opinion, pathetic at best. Run kids down, and run kids off. The program most are used to is gone.
Hired the wrong coach.
He couldn’t win in Jr high. If they really wanted to get back on the right track they would try to hire Mason Lang or Matt Barton from Fort Frye. Young proven winners they have great offensive mind sets.
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Nothing against those 2, but at what level have they called offensive plays?EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:51 pmCHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:23 pmExactly! Even the Administration, when they hired, knew that. When one member was asked their response was “whoever we hired is going to be thrown to the wolves in a couple of years”. At least make an attempt....but that would have been too difficult. Lol
He couldn’t win in Jr high. If they really wanted to get back on the right track they would try to hire Mason Lang or Matt Barton from Fort Frye. Young proven winners they have great offensive mind sets.
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Barton is on the varsity and Jv staff and Mason calls plays for the Jr high. I think both would be fantastic head coaches. Mason been coaching his brothers his entire life.Ff3233 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:03 pmNothing against those 2, but at what level have they called offensive plays?EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:51 pmCHS_skins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:23 pm
Exactly! Even the Administration, when they hired, knew that. When one member was asked their response was “whoever we hired is going to be thrown to the wolves in a couple of years”. At least make an attempt....but that would have been too difficult. Lol
He couldn’t win in Jr high. If they really wanted to get back on the right track they would try to hire Mason Lang or Matt Barton from Fort Frye. Young proven winners they have great offensive mind sets.
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Re: WK 8: Caldwell (2-5) @ Fort Frye (7-0)
All the Fort Frye coaches would succeed as head coaches I do kinda want to keep them in house.
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Ok, barton calls the defense for the jv and is special teams coach for the varsity. Chad huck calls the plays on offense for the jr high. Matt and Mason are solid but neither have the experience quite yet to be varsity head coaches.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:12 pmBarton is on the varsity and Jv staff and Mason calls plays for the Jr high. I think both would be fantastic head coaches. Mason been coaching his brothers his entire life.Ff3233 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:03 pmNothing against those 2, but at what level have they called offensive plays?EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:51 pm
He couldn’t win in Jr high. If they really wanted to get back on the right track they would try to hire Mason Lang or Matt Barton from Fort Frye. Young proven winners they have great offensive mind sets.
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Ff3233 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:20 pmOk, barton calls the defense for the jv and is special teams coach for the varsity. Chad huck calls the plays on offense for the jr high. Matt and Mason are solid but neither have the experience quite yet to be varsity head coaches.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:12 pmBarton is on the varsity and Jv staff and Mason calls plays for the Jr high. I think both would be fantastic head coaches. Mason been coaching his brothers his entire life.Ff3233 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:03 pm
Nothing against those 2, but at what level have they called offensive plays?
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EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:22 pmUnderstood, just making sure you're basing opinions on facts and not conjecture.Ff3233 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:20 pmOk, barton calls the defense for the jv and is special teams coach for the varsity. Chad huck calls the plays on offense for the jr high. Matt and Mason are solid but neither have the experience quite yet to be varsity head coaches.EasternDspy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:12 pm
Barton is on the varsity and Jv staff and Mason calls plays for the Jr high. I think both would be fantastic head coaches. Mason been coaching his brothers his entire life.
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Coach Huck Resume
08 3-7
09 6-4
10 7-3
11- 5-5
12- 8-3. Playoff 0-1
13- 8-3 playoffs 0–1
14- 7-3
15- 10-1 Playoffs 0-1
16- 12-1 Playoffs 2-1
17- 10-2 Playoffs 1-1
18. 12-1 Playoffs 3-1
19. 7-0
6-6 Playoffs
Overall 95- 33
08 3-7
09 6-4
10 7-3
11- 5-5
12- 8-3. Playoff 0-1
13- 8-3 playoffs 0–1
14- 7-3
15- 10-1 Playoffs 0-1
16- 12-1 Playoffs 2-1
17- 10-2 Playoffs 1-1
18. 12-1 Playoffs 3-1
19. 7-0
6-6 Playoffs
Overall 95- 33