FINAL TVC OHIO STANDINGS

NYBuckeye96 · Post by **NYBuckeye96** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:50 pm

Here is a good preview of this years undefeated 8th grade team who will be joining the Buckeyes on Friday nights starting in 2008:

NY 57 Belpre 0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O9SGBaBUgCg

NY 28 VC 6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y05VPDeqTbE

NY 24 Meigs 0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=34QfKiFxiSA

Army · Post by **Army** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:14 pm

Junior High....your kidding right

That's to funny. Remember kids grow and change in H.S. If your basing your future N-Y H.S. Teams because you all had a decent Jr. High Team, I am afraid they are in for a surprise against the other teams they will play in the future at the Varsity Level.

Kids mature, get into lifting and grow. Remember that.

I hope there grades are kosher to play sports when they get to the Varsity Level.

We all see what happened at N-Y this year. River Valley and Wellston have victories over your Buckeyes in 2007.

NYBuckeye96 · Post by **NYBuckeye96** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:28 pm

Just watch and see. They have been running over everyone since they started in second grade. In a couple years, they will be the core of the Buckeyes.

You can't stop tradition.

And considering NY will have nearly all of its core players back next season, it could be a long time before some of the TVC teams see a victory over NY.

Orestes · Post by **Orestes** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:52 pm

Army wrote:
Orestes wrote:Here is my problem with NY being forced to forfeit games.

They were punished as much as a team would be punished for playing an entire starting lineup of ineligible players for two games. However, they played a sub in blowout situations only, and yet, the punishment is the same. Is common sense not used in the OHSAA's decision making process? Do they just follow these black and white booklets and make a judgement? In the regular court of law, such circumstances are most definitely taken into consideration. I think the ruling was ridiculous and shameful.

Does no one else notice the problem with this? Are both rule infractions the same? No way.

Why not put NY on probation, and tell them, "If another case such as this occurs within the next 10 years, NY will be forced to forfeit the entire season, regardless of the amount of games the ineligible player participated in during the season."

This would put the spotlight on NY, and would also be a flexible decision, unlike the blanket-ruling of forfeiting games, regardless of the specifics in the case.

I think the TVC and OHSAA dropped the ball on this one. Each situation should be considered on a case to case basis. There are grey areas, and each case is unique.

Of course, I do not expect NY's competitors to agree with me, as they are giddy about the idea of finding a chink in NY's armor. I don't expect them to be unbias in assessing this situation. The OHSAA, on the other hand, proved themselves to be an embarrassment in this case. They revealed that they cannot be trusted to consider all avenues available to them in each situation.

Sure there are circumstances in every situation, but the TVC and the OHSAA didn't drop the ball, Nelsonville-York did, all for the cause to claim that they had won another share of a TVC Ohio Division Football Championship

At what cost

Look at who was left out of the playoffs due to your schools mistake, Lucasville Valley. Not to mention, you all had to forfiet the game against Wellston. No matter how bad your Buckeyes defeated the Golden Rockets this season. In the eyes of truth you were caught and now your victory turns into a defeat, thus losing your TVC Ohio Co-Championship with Belpre.

What's high school about? Education and educating our kids to become tomorrow's leaders right? Or, is it all about sports championships at all cost? No matter what.

Even in sports, don't we teach our kids that there are rules, guidelines and standards to live by

When you blame everybody but the true source....of this issue, your own schools failure to catch the mistake from the administration all the way down to the HC; what's that say? Don't blame the TVC and the OHSAA for the mistake, it was Nelsonville-Yorks fault and no one elses. Quit making excuses! Stand-up and take responsibility for your actions.

I blamed NY and said they should be placed on a period of probation, where any further violations would be punished more severely than a first time offense. We are talking about NY playing a substitute player in blowout situations only. You are typing as if NY was playing this guy in an attempt to "win at all costs" and that is simply not the case.

If it were any starter or even a regular player, I would feel NY should have to forfeit, whether they were ignorant of the situation or not. However, this kid had absolutely zero impact on the outcomes of games. He was playing in mop-up time.

BTW Army, I graduated from FH, and am not a fan of NY's programs. So, don't say I need to take responsibility for my actions. I have nothing to do with these events. I just feel that anyone with an ounce of common sense would be able to come up with a more reasonable solution than the forfeiting of games.

In my opinion, in order for a team to be forced into a forfeit, the committee must find sufficient evidence that the player(s) in question could have, in some manner, directly influenced the outcome (wins or losses) of the game(s). I am saying that if the kid could have had ANY influence on the outcome, then yes, the team should forfeit. Otherwise, the school should be punished in a more reasonable manner.

Even in the case of murder, premeditated murder is much more harshly punished than a murder in a moment of passion.

In the case of armed robbery, pulling a weapon adds years to the sentence. Likewise, pointing the weapon will add further years. Firing the weapon will also add even more years. As you can see, the specific context and factors in the event can change the severity of punishment entirely.

Why is it that the OHSAA cannot approach their "trials" in a similar fashion?

buckfan84 · Post by **buckfan84** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:12 am

Army wrote:Junior High....your kidding right

That's to funny. Remember kids grow and change in H.S. If your basing your future N-Y H.S. Teams because you all had a decent Jr. High Team, I am afraid they are in for a surprise against the other teams they will play in the future at the Varsity Level.

Kids mature, get into lifting and grow. Remember that.

I hope there grades are kosher to play sports when they get to the Varsity Level.

We all see what happened at N-Y this year. River Valley and Wellston have victories over your Buckeyes in 2007.

The irony is, NY only had to forfeit games that were a blowout. This was because a freshman player that transfered from Alex was ineligible. As far as NY accepting this, we have. Yes, we ARE playing Ironton next year and I don't think you will see any NY poster saying we will blow them out.

Remember, OUR kids will be lifting and growing ALSO. Yeah, RV and Wellston have HOLLOW victories over NY this year. The only people you see gloating are a few posters from VC and of course BM (and I do mean BM) gloating about it. I used to find his posts informative but something happened and all he can seem to say is how much he hates NY.

I guess I am curious Army why you need to come on our threads and start something when you accuse the Logan posters of doing the very same on the SEOAL threads. If you are going to reprimand them for their actions, please live by the same standards you are asking them to live by.

As far as the JH teams. Please at least see the teams before you start basing your opinions sight unseen. Everyone that has seen these teams knows there are some special kids on those teams that are OUTSTANDING athletes.

buckfan84 · Post by **buckfan84** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:23 am

And while I am at it, if you want to talk about class please check out your posts regarding your hope that Chillicothe runs up the score and scores over 100 pts on Logan in BBall. Wow, our memories must be short.

Army · Post by **Army** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:17 am

buckfan84 wrote:
Army wrote:Junior High....your kidding right

That's to funny. Remember kids grow and change in H.S. If your basing your future N-Y H.S. Teams because you all had a decent Jr. High Team, I am afraid they are in for a surprise against the other teams they will play in the future at the Varsity Level.

Kids mature, get into lifting and grow. Remember that.

I hope there grades are kosher to play sports when they get to the Varsity Level.

We all see what happened at N-Y this year. River Valley and Wellston have victories over your Buckeyes in 2007.

The irony is, NY only had to forfeit games that were a blowout. This was because a freshman player that transfered from Alex was ineligible. As far as NY accepting this, we have. Yes, we ARE playing Ironton next year and I don't think you will see any NY poster saying we will blow them out.

Remember, OUR kids will be lifting and growing ALSO. Yeah, RV and Wellston have HOLLOW victories over NY this year. The only people you see gloating are a few posters from VC and of course BM (and I do mean BM) gloating about it. I used to find his posts informative but something happened and all he can seem to say is how much he hates NY.

I guess I am curious Army why you need to come on our threads and start something when you accuse the Logan posters of doing the very same on the SEOAL threads. If you are going to reprimand them for their actions, please live by the same standards you are asking them to live by.

As far as the JH teams. Please at least see the teams before you start basing your opinions sight unseen. Everyone that has seen these teams knows there are some special kids on those teams that are OUTSTANDING athletes.

buckfan84,

Nothing bad about N-Y I think they have a great tradition since consolidating. If you would have checked my post in the past, I have spoke very highly about N-Y on here the few times I have posted about NY. But concerning this issue, there is no unfair act that the OHSAA did not follow.

How many times have you seen me ever on any NY Threads, and by the way, it's not a NY Thread, it's a TVC thread.

Unlike certain Logan posters that stay on our Chilli Threads just to cause trouble. You have never seen me constantly on your buckeye threads just to talk about nothing. So get it right. This is about an infraction that caused your NY Buckeyes some heart ache but this to will pass. Your folks failed to check on a student that transferred from Alex to NY who failed to meet the minimum OHSAA EDUCATION requirements to play sports and your school had to forfiet two games over it. One to Chesire River Valley from the OVC and my beloved Wellston Golden Rockets from the TVC Ohio who had to endure a difficult season this year as you well know.

Thus, as stated earlier, losing your TVC (Ohio Division) Co-Championship with Belpre. No matter what you all did on the field. It doesn't matter. Your School broke the rules. And you can say what ever you want, and about whoever that actually reported the issue, it's offical and in the record books that counts, in Columbus, Ohio at the OHSAA. I am not sure if Albany Alexander thought you all might have to forfiet all your games or what, but you all were wrong and it's over. Face it and move on. Learn from this event, be diligent in checking transfers and the grades of your players and hopefully this will never happen again at your respected school.

buckfan84,
Oh by the way, although I reside in Chillicothe and support the CAVS and our kids go to Chillicothe City Schools and are active and play on the little league future CAV Teams;

I am a Blue and Gold (Golden Rocket)........ (Thru and Thru).

I always have been...and always will be.

That, being said, unlike your NY poster above that went to FH, I was born at old Dr. Hambricks Office on North Ohio Ave, across the street from Krogers in Wellston and grew up in that former little Coal Hamlet in Southeastern Ohio we call Wellston, Ohio. So I am, a native born and bread Golden Rocket.

Just for historical information, the City is named after it's founder, (Harvey Wells) a businessman, Union Civil War Veteran and former resident who grew up in Wilkesville, Ohio. In his later years, turmoil struck and he comitted suicide. The former resident home of Harvey Wells is still standing up near Ridgemont Cemetary on the East side of town. Wellston has always supported there teams in all sports, no matter what. Especially football

"When I was in school, the Nelsonville Greyhounds and later Nelsonville-York Buckeyes were the joke of the SEOAL."

So watch how you described teams, especially Wellston, because the tradition runs in cycles, and eventually there is down years in everyones programs.

I also attended grade school at (Harvey Wells) on the West Side of town. The nickname was the Harvey Wells (Pioneers), the school colors were Green and White with a Mountianeer. They were the best in sports during my era always defeating South and Central grade schools, in city competitions, under the guise of a great former Wellston PE Teacher who passed away a few years ago. He was (Bataan Death March Survivor) of WWII, Navy Chief Petty Officer Retired and mentor to so many kids growing up in Wellston. He always addressd all of us in PE class as Golden Rockets. Preparing young men to play sports on what is called now, CH Jones Field, the basket ball court on the stage at the old Wellston Gym, and on the 327 ball field diamond. His name was Max West. He was a Wellston Alum and Rio Grande College Alum. Well, the old HARVEY WELLS grade school building has long disappeared, torn down in the early 70's, to which now I might add, is where the Wellston City Pool is located. I to went to Wellston Jr. High and High School too.

"Back then we were in the SEOAL and NY was just a bump in the road that we used to play against in some sports from the TVC after they had left the SEOAL."

Once anyone has attended and are alumni of Wellston City Schools it's hard to take the Golden Rocket out of them

I hope that little bit of historical info is enough to convince you that I am a supporter of the Wellston Golden Rockets, and stuck up for my alma mater when a NY Buckeye was talking bad about the there program on here.

Just as I suspect those that are NY Buckeyes forever would do likewise.

Anyway, good luck to all in the TVC Ohio Teams next season even you all to NY Buckeyes.

Nuff said

Army

Go Golden Rockets

ATownWarrior · Post by **ATownWarrior** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:21 am

how old are we here people?
this fighting is so stupid. they made a mistake, they paid for it. LET IT GO. you cant make up for it by saying that your gonna blow schools out. even if you wanna have no class and say that, let them think that. you dont have to call out all the shots. i dont know the circumstances of the rules, i dont care to know either. but let it go. i guessing you people are grown adults on here running your mouths. lets be mature here.

Orestes · Post by **Orestes** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:41 am

ATownWarrior wrote:how old are we here people?
this fighting is so stupid. they made a mistake, they paid for it. LET IT GO. you cant make up for it by saying that your gonna blow schools out. even if you wanna have no class and say that, let them think that. you dont have to call out all the shots. i dont know the circumstances of the rules, i dont care to know either. but let it go. i guessing you people are grown adults on here running your mouths. lets be mature here.

This is a "discussion" board. That means people come to discuss sports-related matchups and issues.

Just because you don't "care to know" the circumstances surrounding the rules, does not mean that the issue is not worth discussing. Clearly, when the severity of the rule infraction does not determine the severity of the punishment, something is wrong with the system.

mister b · Post by **mister b** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:30 pm

We say the boy did not play in a meaningful game, only in blowouts so why punish the entire team? Because that is the rule. No where does it allow for it being a starter vs a jv player, ineligiable is just that, no matter who you are.

The whole situation is unfortunate, but the folks at Nelsonville did the right thing. The folks at Alexander should have given the heads up but the didn't, thats wrong. Yes, somebody made a mistake in the Nelsonville administration, but who is perfect? Things do fall through the cracks at times and lets remember, the folks who did make the mistake are there primarily to educate students, sports are still an extracirricular activity, which means extra to the student's studys.

At least the school who is now the sole owner of the TVC trophy is the only TVC Ohio school that beat the Buckeyes on the field in the last 5 years, 10-6, at Dave Boston Field no less.

Drilled the Ville we did ;-)

Give the folks at Nelsonville credit, they turned themselves in and we can debate wheather they did it or were affaird they would get turned in, but they did man-up and turned themselves in. So, let it rest.

buckfan84 · Post by **buckfan84** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:25 pm

Mister B wrote:We say the boy did not play in a meaningful game, only in blowouts so why punish the entire team? Because that is the rule. No where does it allow for it being a starter vs a jv player, ineligiable is just that, no matter who you are.

The whole situation is unfortunate, but the folks at Nelsonville did the right thing. The folks at Alexander should have given the heads up but the didn't, thats wrong. Yes, somebody made a mistake in the Nelsonville administration, but who is perfect? Things do fall through the cracks at times and lets remember, the folks who did make the mistake are there primarily to educate students, sports are still an extracirricular activity, which means extra to the student's studys.

At least the school who is now the sole owner of the TVC trophy is the only TVC Ohio school that beat the Buckeyes on the field in the last 5 years, 10-6, at Dave Boston Field no less.

Drilled the Ville we did

Give the folks at Nelsonville credit, they turned themselves in and we can debate wheather they did it or were affaird they would get turned in, but they did man-up and turned themselves in. So, let it rest.

I couldn't agree more. Well said, from a BELPRE fan to boot. Congrats Belpre on the title.

boilermaker · Post by **boilermaker** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:02 pm

96 and bucks54,,,I dont care how bad YOU think Wellston will be thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Rules are made and your team broke them ,,,not Wellston ,,not VC or any other team in the league but you did! So quit blaming everyone else for your rules infraction :oops:

Just come on to Wellston next season and look me up ,I am easy to find on a friday night in the fall. We can discuss this in person if you like :twisted:

Ortese , you have to punish schools who attempt to play ineligible players no matter a sub or a starter doesnt matter . Rules are made for a reason and its not to break them Buchtel ;-)

Like a said in a earlier post Boston is getting whats comming to him,,,why did he leave Alexander . I know do you all :lol:

It wasnt because he is a "GOOD GUY"

bucksfan08 · Post by **bucksfan08** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:58 pm

boilermaker,

boston got what he had coming to him? he left alexander because, NY is a winning tradition football team and wanted to win championships there. Also ..

Army,

how did NY keep lucisville valley out of the playtoffs when , umm, we didnt even make it in, now explain that to me...

I am a buckeye and i do agree what happened was wrong and he shouldnt have played and if the front office had known about him being ineligible he wouldnt have played, dotn blame it on boston or the coaching staff, they did there job and won football games. People on here bashing the coaching staff are wrong there job is to prepare these young men for football games and life. so us arguing on here is rediculous. we lost the title, does that make the whole situation right? NO, it doesnt this is such a big deal because it is Nelsonville-York. if it was alexander or athens or even VC , this woudl not be this big of a deal.

Army · Post by **Army** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:43 pm

boilermaker wrote:96 and bucks54,,,I dont care how bad YOU think Wellston will be thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Rules are made and your team broke them ,,,not Wellston ,,not VC or any other team in the league but you did! So quit blaming everyone else for your rules infraction Just come on to Wellston next season and look me up ,I am easy to find on a friday night in the fall. We can discuss this in person if you like

Ortese , you have to punish schools who attempt to play ineligible players no matter a sub or a starter doesnt matter . Rules are made for a reason and its not to break them Buchtel

Like a said in a earlier post Boston is getting whats comming to him,,,why did he leave Alexander . I know do you all It wasnt because he is a "GOOD GUY"

Boilermaker,
I heard something about a Shampoo incident

Is it true

I tell you what, if it was and I would of been that kids dad, uncle, grandpa, or older brother of the player for the Spartans, that certain person would of left that same day, not until he was waiting for a renewed contract that next year. Rumor has ..... the event was mentioned about the prior season by certain board members and word has it, that the certain person would be watched to ensure another episode like that never takes place again at Alexander Football....then they stated that certain person got mad and left.

If so, that person is very fortunate that a family member who are most likely a farmer or coal miner that lives in that area did not pay a personal visit to the school.

Don't know if that is why? If it was, the administration showed they did not have a pair in there pants, because if they did, they would of fired that person that same day the incident took place and kicked off all those players involved. I know that would of happened at Wellston or any other school in SE-Ohio if an event took place like, the word has it.

That's called leadership, taking charge and being responsible for the program the person is in charge of.

So if that took place at Alexander, are you surprised then about the latest, at N-Y on playing an ineligible player in 2 games and forcing the buckeyes to forfiet to Chesire River Valley from the OVC and Wellston from the TVC Ohio

What gets me is, posters on here that support N-Y are making all kinds of excuses like that person is not in charge of checking the grades concerning his players? Say what?

Like we reported as soon as we found out....

Are you sure they, N-Y did right away

Ortese,
As for rules, they are in place to conform society that there is a fair playing field for all. It's called a democracy, not special dispensation for the select like a dictatorship for the privledge and those who thank even if we break the rules, we should still retain the trophy. What a crock and bull pit of excuses. If you cheat, you are wrong. I can almost guarentee all the NY Posters that there are no coaches in the TVC Ohio going to petition for them to keep there CO-Championship for the TVC Ohio 2007 football season.

Is that person a teacher yet? I heard not? Don't know. Does anybody? If not, what else does that say. Word was, that person was a janitor at Alex while coaching is it true?

bucksfan08,
Why don't you let Lucasville Valley know why they were not playing in week 11. It's because of what your NY Buckeyes did, by playing an ineligible player, thus, cheating and getting Belpre into the playoffs instead of LV from the SOC. A team who played by the rules. Unlike your NY Buckeyes. Need I say anymore.

buckfan84 · Post by **buckfan84** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:14 pm

Welcome to the TVC threads Army. I guess we can all look forward to your wonderful mile long posts with so many question marks that leave me and many others SPEECHLESS for words. I am beginning to wonder if this is SEOP's or the Army show.

Well since your here and not leaving anytime soon. You wont get the same support on these threads as you might on the SEOAL threads. Since we don't play Chillicothe and you will be on here supporting the Wellston Rockets let's keep it to TVC drivel. We don't want to hear how NY can't compete with the SEOAL or anyone in that league.

Also, your fantasy leagues that you take so much time to put together. THEY ARE NOT REALLY HAPPENING. Please tell the voices they are not real. You seem to be one of the most well informed posters on earth as RUMOR and INNUENDO are what you are constantly posting. I read SEOP's a lot and I do not see where any of the info about so and so wants to reform this league or that league.

As far as Boston being a janitor @ Alex when this happened, YES, HE
WAS. SO WHAT!!!!!!!? Do you have to be a teacher to coach? I don't think so. This man was working his way through school, raising 2 kids and supporting his family. YOU ARE A PIECE OF WORK.

Yeah, I know when you were his age you were serving our country and thanks for that. BUT, being in the military is not the only profession in the world. There are millions that are not in the military and their jobs are just as important.

Now, as far as letting LV know, I am not sure they give a rat's arse. But, if you are talking about COAL GROVE, yeah they probably feel a little shafted.

And YES, they did report immediately. You see, I am not posting a rumor there rather a FACT. Check into them sometime. Mick McClelland, the NY principal (he's the guy that runs the office and HS and would be the one that checks the grades and would be doing the reporting) called Coach Boston into the office and informed him of the oversight and Mr. McClelland (you remember, the office guy) immediately informed OHSAA of the oversight.

Also, while I am ranting. Does it make you feel better to bring up the shampoo incident from many years ago? I am sure the victims of that incident REALLY appreciate that.

And no, you needn't say more.

As you so eloquently put it,

'NUFF SAID!!! :-D

Army · Post by **Army** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:28 pm

buckfan84 wrote:Welcome to the TVC threads Army. I guess we can all look forward to your wonderful mile long posts with so many question marks that leave me and many others SPEECHLESS for words. I am beginning to wonder if this is SEOP's or the Army show.

Well since your here and not leaving anytime soon. You wont get the same support on these threads as you might on the SEOAL threads. Since we don't play Chillicothe and you will be on here supporting the Wellston Rockets let's keep it to TVC drivel. We don't want to hear how NY can't compete with the SEOAL or anyone in that league.

Also, your fantasy leagues that you take so much time to put together. THEY ARE NOT REALLY HAPPENING. Please tell the voices they are not real. You seem to be one of the most well informed posters on earth as RUMOR and INNUENDO are what you are constantly posting. I read SEOP's a lot and I do not see where any of the info about so and so wants to reform this league or that league.

As far as Boston being a janitor @ Alex when this happened, YES, HE
WAS. SO WHAT!!!!!!!? Do you have to be a teacher to coach? I don't think so. This man was working his way through school, raising 2 kids and supporting his family. YOU ARE A PIECE OF WORK.

Yeah, I know when you were his age you were serving our country and thanks for that. BUT, being in the military is not the only profession in the world. There are millions that are not in the military and their jobs are just as important.

Now, as far as letting LV know, I am not sure they give a rat's arse. But, if you are talking about COAL GROVE, yeah they probably feel a little shafted.

And YES, they did report immediately. You see, I am not posting a rumor there rather a FACT. Check into them sometime. Mick McClelland, the NY principal (he's the guy that runs the office and HS and would be the one that checks the grades and would be doing the reporting) called Coach Boston into the office and informed him of the oversight and Mr. McClelland (you remember, the office guy) immediately informed OHSAA of the oversight.

Also, while I am ranting. Does it make you feel better to bring up the shampoo incident from many years ago? I am sure the victims of that incident REALLY appreciate that.

And no, you needn't say more.

As you so eloquently put it,

'NUFF SAID!!!

Bucknutfan84,

The only reply I will state is, your beloved Buckeyes got caught and now unfortunately, the kids who played fair and followed the rules, missed out on another TVC Championship due to an error by the leadership. All for the glory. It seems they wanted to wait and see...then when your beloved school was going to get busted out, there was no choice. If that event did take place at Alex and the same would of happened at Wellston or Chillicothe that person would of been gone, history.

It sure does help to see the coach of your team in the classroom, mentoring and teaching. Is that person a teacher now? I SURE hope so. Isn't school supposed to be about academics first, activities second?

It's a great thing you all aren't playing the Chillicothe CAVS in football. I can't wait to see what Ironton from the SEOAL does up there this year though.

Heck you all can't even defeat little old Glouster Trimble from the TVC Hocking Division and Crooksville from the MVL

Nuff Said

GO Golden Rockets in 2008 beat NY Buckeyes....again

Back to Back 2007 and 2008

buckfan84 · Post by **buckfan84** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:36 pm

Thanks Army, you proved my point!!!!

NYBuckeye96 · Post by **NYBuckeye96** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:42 pm

Wow, I cannot believe some of the things I have read on this thread, the SEOAL thread, and a few other threads. I have totally lost respect for several posters on here. This website is NOTHING like it used to be. I'm seriously considering deleting my account and not coming back.

bucksfan08 · Post by **bucksfan08** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:46 pm

ARMY why dotn you just stick to the SEOAL topics, because you have no clue about the TVC ohio, or hocking. You seem to be one of the most pompus people on here. Defending what yout hink should happen, not whats right.

Run Bubba Run · Post by **Run Bubba Run** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:57 pm

Isn't Coach Boston also the AD at N-Y?? If he is, then he has to bear some of the responsibility in this whole fiasco.

I would think the AD would submit his eligibility forms to the Principal in as accurate condition as possible. The administrator really does not have time to check eligibilities. he delegates that to his AD and works from that position. That's how it is done most places.