Week 5: Jackson (2-2) vs Wheelersburg (4-0)

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Well Burg Grad 77 it is like this. Have 4 years of going 35-5 or so with a 10-0 year and a playoff win and everyone's happy. Go 5-5 last year and probably 5-5 or 6-4 or 7-3 this year and people acting like....well just watch and see...they will start the headhunting soon, if they haven't already. And apparently not come sit in their seats either...


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iman24 wrote:Worst looking football since Hutchison was here coachs just stand and yell time for the staff to go jackson will be looking for new people after this showing

doubleplay643, you mean like this statement here. Already calling for the coaches heads halfway through the season. lol
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When you can't line up or run plays or change personnel when this happens who's to blame. Austin Osbornes will not show up every year you need to be fundamentally sound and if your not who's fault? Jackson will néed to change some players or loss several games in league play. If you we're there last night everybody seen 38 got to start at linebacker and 31 needs to be in game 45 need to go to free safety and he ran ball well last night 7 needs to play rover he been one of jackson best tacklers all the way up thru and now he plays 3 and outs. And gotta give Farley a few carries just to see what happens throw the ball to 38 let him catch and if you don't throw to Williams the. Put him on line only took four weeks to remember he a D1 linebacker had half as many tackles last night as he had all year on the D line. Your wanna coach coach in million dollar alumni stadium we expect a team that can line up on offense and that will hit and tackle like they have all the way up.


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iman24 wrote:When you can't line up or run plays or change personnel when this happens who's to blame. Austin Osbornes will not show up every year you need to be fundamentally sound and if your not who's fault? Jackson will néed to change some players or loss several games in league play. If you we're there last night everybody seen 38 got to start at linebacker and 31 needs to be in game 45 need to go to free safety and he ran ball well last night 7 needs to play rover he been one of jackson best tacklers all the way up thru and now he plays 3 and outs. And gotta give Farley a few carries just to see what happens throw the ball to 38 let him catch and if you don't throw to Williams the. Put him on line only took four weeks to remember he a D1 linebacker had half as many tackles last night as he had all year on the D line. Your wanna coach coach in million dollar alumni stadium we expect a team that can line up on offense and that will hit and tackle like they have all the way up.
Sounds like you should apply for the job since you seem to have all the answers.


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Couple observations and then I am done and will move on to week 6.

Lest we forget (and keep things in perspective) we have played 3 opponents that are to date 14-1, with the one loss coming from West Jefferson playing Marion Local the defending state champions and in all honesty most likely this years state champions. These same three teams will very likely finish 29-1. These same three teams will play in week 11.

Lest we forget (and keep things in perspective) this is the first year that the majority of the starting offense and defense have played together since grade school. Yes last years freshman and 8th grade teams were dominant and beat badly the very teams we are losing to last week and this week but that is NOT varsity. They were dominant in their class 8th against 8th or 9th against 9th, but this IS different. Not only our they playing against more mature teams they are playing against VERY GOOD mature teams and players.

Burrows last week and Miller this week threw it to where no one else could catch it, threw it to a spot where they KNEW someone would be because this is the 2nd or 3rd year they have played together. Last night they marched right down the sidelines, and it was usually a play on 3rd and 6, 8, 12 and once 3rd and 27, just when you thought they may have a chance to get off the field. It had NOTHING to do with hitting, tackling, or anything other than good teams and good players that knew what to do and how to play together.

I am disappointed like any other fan, and soon will have a boy in the junior high program...but good god man it has nothing to do with players or coaches when you step back and look at the opponents and their programs. I am sure the kids have had 3 weeks of negative chirping in their ear from everyone, and hopefully they are resilient enough to not listen and go out next week and start league play without being beat down...that is the risk. Hopefully the players and coaches can make the long trip to Warren next week and put some of this behind them and get back to .500.

Good week of positive practice and keep toying with the right combination and let's get after the road to 7-3.


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Just the obvious ones me and other blind guys on the fifty see. Five games to go well see hope I'm wrong


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Yep, I sat on the 50 with relatives on the visitors side and saw a performance that was about 15 for 20 in passing attempts (purely a guess on stats) to the sidelines or endzone on plays that are very hard to defend...unfortunately many on 3rd and more than 5 yards on many occasions just when you thought they could get off the field.

Not sure how hitting or tackling or coaching for that matter can defend that, pretty sure you can't tackle the receiver prior to him receiving the ball.

From my vantage point and the other blind guys on the visitors 50 yard line we saw a lot of empty seats as well...embarrassing I said previously. But apparently if you aren't winning in the "million" dollar stadium it is coaching, hitting and tackling, and has nothing to do with 3 quality play-off opponents...lol whatever.

Everyone entitled to their opinion, my guess if I had access to a replay or film and I don't, you would not see too many missed tackles on the touchdown passes (think there were 3?), probably some on that kick-off return though, and a whole lot of execution by Wheelersburg on 3rd downs. Think there were only a couple Burg didn't convert.

Heads up Ironmen, toy with the personnel/positions, saw some improvement and different looks there last night, and tune out the nonsense and believe in yourselves.

Week 6, get back to .500 and let's do it in convincing fashion.


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Jackson didn't seem to have much size upfront, and not a lot of speed at the skilled positions. No size, no speed=0-3 vs 3 pretty good teams. Jackson's D contained the burgs O better than anyone this season, especially in he first half.


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Correction to above post.

26 for 32 and 4 touchdowns, 2 of which came on 3 wideout bubble screen/pick pass and untouched. 300 yards passing. 125 yards rushing according to Burg sources.

1 TD kickoff return and admit plenty missed tackles.

1 rushing TD on the play where kid lost helmet.


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Who is #31.....he was constantly getting good pressure. He definitely needs to be in there against passing teams or passing situations.


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I92 it is Raymond Potter, very good player. He should start to see the field a lot passing situations or run IMO.

Think they need to consider Sexton on defense as well in there somewhere, I know it is the old you don't want the QB injured debate but he is a gamer on defensive side of ball.

Still like to see Williams play a little guard unless we are going to throw the ball to him a little more...and I really would like to toss the ball around a little more. When your line is undersized, you are doing them no favors when the opponents are loading up the box on you. And when good opponents load up the box...you can look bad.


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