I stand corrected and retract that part of my reply. I apologize for not reading it better.allamericanironman wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:52 pmI was telling you it is eating at your coach not you!wobycat wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:06 pmApparently you didn’t read my first statement. OHSAA DID investigate. Wheelersburg and Mosley DID cooperate. In the eyes of the governing body of Ohio high school football, they found no wrong. That’s the only light that needed to be shedded to. Frankly no one else needs an explanation, especially those who won’t believe regardless. The reason it eats at me, is that some people want almost hope for it to be true on the mere fact of what school it is. Paying no attention to common sense of what the accusations are and to whom they are directed to. But your post continues to show that type of insanity.allamericanironman wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:52 am
Spot on Trojan.
Woby this is eating at him. Shedding light is really the only solution to make everything right. I am sure we are not the only two people that think this.
I agree that it’s a shame we have to be guilty before proven innocentBut in the court of public opinion that’s how it is sometimes
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In general just looking at , it comes off as a bad look for all involved here. Madison Coach has made a bad look for them and in the big picture just a plain bad vibe from all involved. Sometimes winning at all costs by both teams comes back to each teams fan base and a loss is hard to swallow.
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ohbuckeye 2 you wouldn't be a stat guy for Ironton Boys Basketball would you? Trying to start problems with the Wheelersburg people. How about you stick to doing stats from the sideline seats at the basketball games as well as some radio broadcasting. Sounds like to me your just jealous of the Burg!ohbuckeye2 wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:44 pm To whom it may concern?
Curious as to who all this letter was sent out to, local paper, Facebook, burgfan.com, etc.... who was it intended for?
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Success brings accusations. All great coaches deal with it. Jealousy and envy can deally bring out the worst in people.
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No I would have done a press release like they did, I would have just included what the OHSAA told them, and what all was turned into the OHSAA to prove their innocence.wobycat wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:05 pm The court of opinion? Lol. People continue to believe when the OHSAA found no wrong in them. Lol what do you think they should do, hold a press conference with Ben spicer, or wnxt? Plead to preps? Posters like raider ball will never believe them, ever. The letter was put on the team’s website
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One question I may not be understanding but a lot of you are saying OHSAA did investigate. My reading of the letter says no one from Burg's staff was contacted about any investigation. So was there any investigation at all. Or did OSHAA just decide that these were ridiculous allegations that didn't warrant an investigation?
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Good point. They investigated it and that’s probably what they came up with. Regardless OHSAA looked into it and found nothing.Redball wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:24 pm One question I may not be understanding but a lot of you are saying OHSAA did investigate. My reading of the letter says no one from Burg's staff was contacted about any investigation. So was there any investigation at all. Or did OSHAA just decide that these were ridiculous allegations that didn't warrant an investigation?
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The biggest question is why was Mosley standing on the Madison side by their coaches?
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He was listening to the Madison coach, then relaying that to the coaches. The burg coaches then used that information and quickly flipped through Madison playbook that they stole from infiltrating the coaches locker room using a pick and a Bobby pin the night before. Once they found the play in the playbook they send it to burgs linebacker who had a wireless headset glued to the inside of the helmet. They did this in a matter of 5 to 10 seconds before Madison could snap the ball. Pretty impressive if you ask me.Raider6309 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:15 pm The biggest question is why was Mosley standing on the Madison side by their coaches?
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Bloom Carroll did that to us. Well stole all our money in the locker room lol
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Although I don’t believe it happened. It’s not absured to see how it could.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
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The only time Mosley was on their sideline was on the last drive and he was standing in the endzone 25 plus yards away even if their coaches were yelling it would be pretty hard to hear the play callsTrojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:25 pm Although I don’t believe it happened. It’s not absured to see how it could.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
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I know you don’t believe that they didn’t do anything wrong but you keep making up these scenarios that don’t help. For that to happen he would have to be almost right beside him, unless he was screaming it out, which I highly doubt any coach would happen. The closet he got was on their side of the end zone near the press of Madison.Trojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:25 pm Although I don’t believe it happened. It’s not absured to see how it could.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
And does anyone realize that the drive in which they accused Burg of cheating was their best drive of the night?
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Again when does common sense play into this? Never? Maybe I just need to be quiet. It’s very strange how people think.
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Perception, most people have there own perception of those events.
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On top of it being their best drive when they did go to a “two receiver wide” set as it was put they had their best play of that drive and probably would of scored had the kid not ran into the official.wobycat wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:56 pmI know you don’t believe that they didn’t do anything wrong but you keep making up these scenarios that don’t help. For that to happen he would have to be almost right beside him, unless he was screaming it out, which I highly doubt any coach would happen. The closet he got was on their side of the end zone near the press of Madison.Trojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:25 pm Although I don’t believe it happened. It’s not absured to see how it could.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
And does anyone realize that the drive in which they accused Burg of cheating was their best drive of the night?
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Absolutely not lol, I live in Ontario, OH and work in Manfield. I haven't been to a High School Basketball game this year. I was just curious as to who the letter was intended for that's all, not trying to start trouble with anyone. Jealous, absolutely not, I think it's great when any Southeastern Ohio Team makes a long run in the Playoffs.GalliaTribe wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:08 amohbuckeye 2 you wouldn't be a stat guy for Ironton Boys Basketball would you? Trying to start problems with the Wheelersburg people. How about you stick to doing stats from the sideline seats at the basketball games as well as some radio broadcasting. Sounds like to me your just jealous of the Burg!ohbuckeye2 wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:44 pm To whom it may concern?
Curious as to who all this letter was sent out to, local paper, Facebook, burgfan.com, etc.... who was it intended for?
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So now we’re offended by hypotheticals, SMh, maybe grow a little thicker skin. What I stated is possible, even though you know the call doesn’t mean it will necessarily stop it so they could have still got their best drive, still have to exicute to stop it.bleed_blue wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:52 pmOn top of it being their best drive when they did go to a “two receiver wide” set as it was put they had their best play of that drive and probably would of scored had the kid not ran into the official.wobycat wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:56 pmI know you don’t believe that they didn’t do anything wrong but you keep making up these scenarios that don’t help. For that to happen he would have to be almost right beside him, unless he was screaming it out, which I highly doubt any coach would happen. The closet he got was on their side of the end zone near the press of Madison.Trojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:25 pm Although I don’t believe it happened. It’s not absured to see how it could.
Guy on side line hears 32 trap. He calls it in, press box 2 hole sent to side line, while Madison is sending play, calling play in huddle. Burg holds up 2 fingers or whatever there signal is for 2 hole blitz, LB yells it out Madison snaps ball, Burg is in place to stop it.
No I don’t believe this happened because it’s high school football, and as much as I love it, I can’t imagine wanting to win so bad to do something like that, or even think about it. It is however possible to gain an advantage, they don’t need to know exactly what they are running only where they are going. There is a reason most teams huddle it’s so the other team doesn’t hear, and yes I know lots of teams run no huddle and make calls at the line, but their calls are then not that easy to understand.
And does anyone realize that the drive in which they accused Burg of cheating was their best drive of the night?
I can’t believe you’re upset because it’s posible, how dare I defame the Burg by talking about hypotheticals, grow up guys. Burg did nothing wrong, doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen, or someone else hasn’t tried it.
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I’m far from offended haha. Just as you put out hypothetical situations we can put out hypothetical reasons to dispute them. Hypothetically those Madison people that say they heard something could of misinterpreted it as something that it truly wasn’t.Trojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:58 pmSo now we’re offended by hypotheticals, SMh, maybe grow a little thicker skin. What I stated is possible, even though you know the call doesn’t mean it will necessarily stop it so they could have still got their best drive, still have to exicute to stop it.bleed_blue wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:52 pmOn top of it being their best drive when they did go to a “two receiver wide” set as it was put they had their best play of that drive and probably would of scored had the kid not ran into the official.wobycat wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:56 pm
I know you don’t believe that they didn’t do anything wrong but you keep making up these scenarios that don’t help. For that to happen he would have to be almost right beside him, unless he was screaming it out, which I highly doubt any coach would happen. The closet he got was on their side of the end zone near the press of Madison.
And does anyone realize that the drive in which they accused Burg of cheating was their best drive of the night?
I can’t believe you’re upset because it’s posible, how dare I defame the Burg by talking about hypotheticals, grow up guys. Burg did nothing wrong, doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen, or someone else hasn’t tried it.
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Well it sound like that’s not a hypothetical, but that’s exactly what happened lol.bleed_blue wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:21 pmI’m far from offended haha. Just as you put out hypothetical situations we can put out hypothetical reasons to dispute them. Hypothetically those Madison people that say they heard something could of misinterpreted it as something that it truly wasn’t.Trojan_FB_Alum wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:58 pmSo now we’re offended by hypotheticals, SMh, maybe grow a little thicker skin. What I stated is possible, even though you know the call doesn’t mean it will necessarily stop it so they could have still got their best drive, still have to exicute to stop it.bleed_blue wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:52 pm
On top of it being their best drive when they did go to a “two receiver wide” set as it was put they had their best play of that drive and probably would of scored had the kid not ran into the official.
I can’t believe you’re upset because it’s posible, how dare I defame the Burg by talking about hypotheticals, grow up guys. Burg did nothing wrong, doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen, or someone else hasn’t tried it.
I’ve always wondered how they even heard him on the phone from the end zone, something about that never made sense.