Ironton leaving the SEOAL

[grizzlynatural]

[qualified101]

dont worry about mark vass doing his job!!!!!! that was just wrong! the last ad stuck us with this problem not him . he is doing his by getting us out of this league. wanna talk crowds? how bout all the empty seats at the tank's visitors side the last 2 years?? most of the seoal does not travel well.

In that case, Ironton should stay in the SEOAL.

I don't think we've ever seen a 4-1 team bring a smaller crowd to a game in the last 10 years. If GAHS or Jackson were 4-1 in the same situation, they would have had 4 times the crowd IHS brought to Logan.

IMO It aint about the travel or the loot, it's about getting your hat handed to you, and no longer being a league dominating team.

great post that is probably right on. it was already said, if you cant beatem, find an excuse to leave.

[qualified101]

We got a huge trophy case full of league title trophies from both the SEOAL and the OKAC. Thats the difference in winners and losers. Winners always want more than some 10 team league trophy they want to big prize. You dont alwyas get it or get close to it, but the striving for it is what sets you apart from the rest of the crowd. Losers on the other hand strive for mediocrity in which they place a greater importance on being mediocre and never striving for something more.

better take another look at those priorities. usually winners get the ten league trophy and then go for the next prize, not the other way around.

[Tigercannon71]

Look when youve been to the top of the mountain you want to get back there you arent satisfied getting to the midpoint. People remember the guys that got to the top they dont remember the one that only got halfway. Thinking that a league title is enough to play for and that is some big accomplishment thas for teams that have never reached that pinnacle of success. Remember boys in life there are winners and losers. Loser settle for league titles winners strive to do something more and their fans expect more.

[grizzlynatural]

Well you see here in recent years where thinking like that has got Ironton.

Face it, your not what you used to be. Thinking that way has obviously got you nowhere.

[Tigercannon71]

Ok we havent won in the past few years and we havent been since 99, but in that time thinking like that has gotten us a lot farther than teams that just think about winning their league. Again you have never been to the top so you dont know any better than to aspire to be more than a league champion.

[Amen Corner]

I would like to see Football stay Independent and the rest of the other sports get in a league.

[ohbuckeye2]

Ok we havent won in the past few years and we havent been since 99, but in that time thinking like that has gotten us a lot farther than teams that just think about winning their league. Again you have never been to the top so you dont know any better than to aspire to be more than a league champion.

That would be to the State Championship Game..........

[osu 77]

Ok we havent won in the past few years and we havent been since 99, but in that time thinking like that has gotten us a lot farther than teams that just think about winning their league. Again you have never been to the top so you dont know any better than to aspire to be more than a league champion.

I would say in those years we were or would have been league champions. So winning the league tells you a great deal about your football team.

[85inside]

1973 State Runner up-SEOAL League champ
1979 State Champs-SEOAL League champs
1982 State runner Ups- SEOAL Champs
1988 State runner Ups- OKAC Champs
1989 State Champs -- OKAC Champs

I'd say ironton did pretty well, while they were in a league. Ironton also played in 2 state championships in 1992 and 1993, in the first two years as an indy. However, after 1993, ironton has only played for one title. That was in 1999. I don't think it hurts us being an indy. However, to make a point to say that being in a league, doesnt motivate the kids to play for a state title....well, based on the numbers, just doesnt have any merit.

[grizzlynatural]

Were also referring to the brief medicre run Ironton just made at the league when they returned in 06.

[Tigercannon71]

Im just saying once you start settling fo rleague titles like some teams around here do you get complacent and thats all you aspire to be league champs. Soemtime you got to aim for higher than that. If you base your success on being a league champ and thats all you want thats fine. Some teams expect more than just some paper league title.

85, lets look at some numbers in 14 years out of a league Ironton has played in 3 state games for about every 4 years. With about 31 or so years in a league they have been there 5 times. So out of a league you got a better shot at playing for state.

[ItownHosscat]

Grizzley...Im not one of those posters that get on here thumping their chests on how bad we're gonna beat people.
I will say this tho,times have changed, Logan for now owns us.Will we ever be able to beat them again, who knows,we will give it our all thats for sure.
As I said times have changed Ironton at this point is clinging to D4 and not sure if we will be D4 for very much longer.
Back in the 70's and 80's we were bigger school wise.
I know this is a football forum but Ironton leaving the league,aint about football as much as the other sports.
People dislike Ironton for a ton of reasons,1 they couldn't beat them,2 Jealous of all the publicity they get or 3,They think all the Ironton fans act the same on here or in real life.Which isn't the case.

[BuckeyeCAV]

Grizzley...Im not one of those posters that get on here thumping their chests on how bad we're gonna beat people.
I will say this tho,times have changed, Logan for now owns us.Will we ever be able to beat them again, who knows,we will give it our all thats for sure.
As I said times have changed Ironton at this point is clinging to D4 and not sure if we will be D4 for very much longer.
Back in the 70's and 80's we were bigger school wise.
I know this is a football forum but Ironton leaving the league,aint about football as much as the other sports.
People dislike Ironton for a ton of reasons,1 they couldn't beat them,2 Jealous of all the publicity they get or 3,They think all the Ironton fans act the same on here or in real life.Which isn't the case.

ItownHosscat,

Grizzley's team has some catching up to do whouldn't you say?

1973 State Runner up-SEOAL League champ
1979 State Champs-SEOAL League champs
1982 State runner Ups- SEOAL Champs
1988 State runner Ups- OKAC Champs
1989 State Champs -- OKAC Champs


Ironton leads the series 16-7 over Logan
Years Winner Score
1927 Ironton (H) 1 0
1929 Ironton (H) 38 0
1968 Logan (A) 8 0
1969 Ironton (H) 20 0
1970 Logan (A) 14 7
1971 Logan (H) 22 19
1972 Ironton (A) 7 0
1973 Ironton (H) 22 0
1974 Ironton (A) 35 0
1975 Ironton (H) 27 7
1976 Ironton (A) 8 0
1977 Logan (H) 21 14
1979 Ironton (H) 42 6
1980 Ironton (A) 28 0
1981 Ironton (H) 40 6
1982 Ironton (A) 42 30
1983 Ironton (H) 14 7
1984 Ironton (A) 42 0
1989 Ironton (A) 44 6
1990 Ironton (H) 35 0
2006 Logan (H) 7 0
2007 Logan (A) 53 14
2008 Logan (A) 35 10

SEOAL Championships
1972 - Ironton
1973 - Ironton
1974 - Ironton
1975 - Ironton
1976 - Ironton, Logan
1977 - Logan
1978 - Ironton
1979 - Ironton

(1980-1989)
1980 - Ironton, Jackson
1981 - Ironton
1982 - Ironton
1983 - Ironton
1984 - Ironton


Ironton in the SEOAL by seasons:

First Time in SEOAL:

1926 Sonny Winters 4-4-0
Ironton Opp
Huntington High WV (A) 0 33
Wellston (H) 6 12
Russell, Ky (H) 39 0
Jackson (A) 19 13
Athens (A) 0 31
Gallipolis (H) 13 0
Portsmouth (A) 0 47
Ironton St. Joe (H) 35 6
Totals 112 142


1927 T. C. Davies 6-1-2
Ironton Opp
New Boston (H) 6 0
Dayton Stivers (A) 12 12
Jackson (H) 0 0
Athens (H) 6 0
Columbus Aquinas (H) 12 7
Wellston (A) 33 0
Portsmouth (H) 12 6
Logan (A) 1 0
Huntington, WV (H) 0 7
Totals 81-32

1928 T. C. Davies 4-5-0
Ironton Opp
Paintsville Ky. (H) 37 0
Jackson (A) 25 0
Ceredo-Kenova WV (H) 12 14
Parkersburg WV (A) 7 12
Columbus Aquinas (H) 26 7
Portsmouth (A) 6 26
Middletown (H) 0 20
Athens (A) 6 7
New Boston (H) 30 0
Totals 149-86

1929 T. C. Davies 7-2-1
Ironton Opp
Catlettsburg, Ky (H) 20 0
McArthur (H) 26 0
Gallipolis (A) 31 0
New Boston (H) 22 0
Logan (H) 38 0
Jackson (H) 0 0
Portsmouth (H) 0 14
Middletown (A) 0 7
Athens (H) 19 0
Lancaster (A) 20 12
Totals 176-33

1930 T. C. Davies 7-2-0
Ironton Opp
Chesapeake (H) 20 0
Coal Grove (H) 13 0
Catlettsburg, Ky (A) 6 7
Marietta (H) 13 0
New Boston (H) 19 0
Athens (A) 14 0
Portsmouth (A) 13 6
Wellston (H) 25 0
Lancaster (H) 0 6
Totals 123-19

Second Time in SEOAL:

1968 Bob Bruney 1-7-2
Ironton Opp
Coshocton (H) 0 8
Portsmouth (A) 14 56
Wellston (H) 6 12
Gallipolis (A) 20 28
Jackson (A) 20 29
Nelsonville-York (H) 32 6
Athens (A) 14 18
Meigs (H) 14 14
Logan (A) 0 8
Ashland KY (H) 0 0
Totals 120-179


1969 Bob Bruney 7-3-0
Ironton Opp
Logan WV (A) 0 12
Portsmouth (H) 26 6
Logan (H) 20 0
Wellston (A) 34 0
Gallipolis (H) 29 24
Jackson (H) 19 24
Nelsonville-York (A 60 0
Athens (H) 13 12
Meigs (A) 13 26
Ashland KY (KY) 14 8
Totals 228-112

1970 Bob Bruney 5-5-0
Ironton Opp
New Boston (H) 35 0
Portsmouth (A) 15 22
Meigs (H) 6 8
Logan (A) 7 14
Wellston (H) 41 14
Gallipolis (A) 13 22
Jackson (A) 20 18
Waverly (H) 30 12
Athens (A) 27 0
Ashland KY (H) 3 7
Totals 197 117

1971 Bob Bruney 9-1-0
Ironton Opp
New Boston (H) 40 14
Portsmouth (H) 27 0
Athens (H) 28 7
Meigs (A) 22 6
Logan (H) 19 22
Wellston (A) 56 12
Gallipolis (H) 38 8
Jackson (H) 29 3
Waverly (A) 14 8
Ashland KY (A) 28 19
Totals 301 99


1972 Bob Lutz 8-2-0
Ironton Opp
Columbus DeSales (H) 0 7
Portsmouth (A) 7 12
Waverly (H) 39 14
Athens (A) 6 0
Meigs (H) 37 0
Logan (A) 7 0
Wellston (H) 43 0
Gallipolis (A) 46 14
Jackson (A) 28 6
Fairborn Park Hills (H) 14 0
Totals 227 53

1973 Bob Lutz 11-1-0
Ironton Opp
Huntington High WV (A) 35 20
Portsmouth (H) 23 6
Huntington East WV (A) 20 0
Jackson (H) 28 14
Waverly (A) 50 8
Athens (H) 14 6
Meigs (A) 13 6
Logan (H) 22 0
Wellston (A) 27 6
Gallipolis (H) 14 7

Total Regular Season
246-73

PLAYOFFS
Cincinnati Reading (N) State-Semi-Final @ Fulton Field - Lancaster 7 0
Cleveland Benedictine (N) State Championship @ Paul Brown Stadium - Massillon 13 38

Totals 266-111


1974 Bob Lutz 8-1-1
Ironton Opp
South Point (H) 26 0
Portsmouth (A) 13 13
Ashland KY (H) 13 14
Gallipolis (A) 15 14
Jackson (A) 12 6
Waverly (H) 43 20
Athens (A) 20 0
Meigs (H) 44 0
Logan (A) 35 0
Wellston (H) 33 7
Totals 254 74


1975 Bob Lutz 9-2-0
Ironton Opp
South Point (H) 8 0
Portsmouth (H) 13 12
Ashland (A) 0 14
Wellston (A) 12 6
Gallipolis (H) 29 7
Jackson (H) 18 16
Waverly (A) 6 0
Athens (H) 14 13
Meigs (A) 16 0
Logan (H) 27 7

PLAYOFFS
Cincinnati Wyoming (N) State Semi-Final - Welcome Stadium - Dayton 7 26
Total 150 101


1976 Bob Lutz 9-1-0
Ironton Opp
Russell KY (H) 6 0
Portsmouth (A) 22 14
Dayton Jefferson (H) 28 14
Logan (A) 8 0
Wellston (H) 36 3
Gallipolis (A) 14 18
Jackson (A) 32 21
Waverly (H) 68 0
Athens (A) 19 6
Meigs (H) 34 6
Totals 267 82


1977 Bob Lutz 8-2-0
Ironton Opp
Russell KY (A) 14 23
Portsmouth (H) 20 8
Dayton Jefferson (H) 33 0
Meigs (A) 9 7
Logan (H) 14 21
Wellston (A) 40 6
Gallipolis (H) 24 0
Jackson (H) 28 0
Waverly (A) 35 14
Athens (A) 23 0
Totals 240 79


1978 Bob Lutz 9-0-0
Ironton Opp
Ashland (H) 34 2
Portsmouth (A) 29 0
Washington Court House (A) 46 26
Athens (A) 35 0
Meigs (H) 35 20
Wellston (H) 36 7
Gallipolis (A) 36 8
Jackson (A) 41 8
Waverly (H) 66 14
Totals 358 85


1979 Bob Lutz 10-0-1
Ironton Opp
Ashland KY (A) 6 0
Portsmouth (H) 22 18
Washington Court House (H) 13 13
Waverly (A) 22 8
Athens (H) 35 0
Logan (H) 42 6
Wellston (A) 41 15
Gallipolis (H) 42 20
Jackson (H) 7 0

PLAYOFFS
Hamilton Badin (N) State Semi-Final - Groveport Madison Stadium 21 6
Akron St. Vincent St. Mary (N) State Final - Rubber Bowl - Akron 7 6
Totals 258-92

1980 Bob Lutz 9-1-1
Ironton Opp
Russell KY (H) 33 13
Ashland KY (H) 30 15
Portsmouth (A) 13 9
Jackson (A) 7 7
Waverly (H) 43 6
Athens (A) 41 14
Meigs (H) 29 7
Logan (A) 28 0
Wellston (H) 35 13
Gallipolis (A) 34 20

PLAYOFFS
New Concord John Glen (H) Regional Final - Tank Stadium 7 20
Totals 299-124

1981 Bob Lutz 10-0-0

Ironton Opp
Ashland KY (A) 35 14
Russell KY (A) 21 14
Portsmouth (H) 28 8
Gallipolis (H) 42 12
Jackson (H) 62 14
Waverly (A) 49 15
Athens (H) 49 20
Meigs (A) 40 0
Logan (H) 40 6
Wellston (A) 54 19
Totals 420-122


1982 Bob Lutz 12-1-0
Ironton Opp
Wheelersburg (H) 29 14
Cincinnati McNicholas 49 24
Portsmouth (A) 40 0
Ashland (H) 29 13
Gallipolis (A) 15 13
Jackson (A) 28 0
Waverly (H) 50 13
Athens (A) 61 19
Meigs (H) 35 0
Logan (A) 42 30

PLAYOFFS
McConnelsville-Morgan (H) Regional Final - Tank Stadium 35 8
Urbana (N) State Semi-Final Groveport Madison Stadium 28 20
Akron St. Vincent St. Mary (N) State Final - Ohio Stadium - Columbus 14 21
Totals 455-175

1983 Bob Lutz 8-0-1
Ironton Opp
Wheelersburg (A) 28 14
Cincinnati McNicholas (A) 14 14
Portsmouth (H) 32 0
Logan (H) 14 7
Ashland KY (A) 26 19
Gallipolis (H) 41 12
Jackson (H) 28 7
Waverly (A) 49 6
Athens (H) 40 6

Totals 272-85

1984 Bob Lutz 7-3-0
Ironton Opp
Circleville (H) 35 7
Russell KY (A) 27 13
Portsmouth (A) 10 19
Logan (A) 42 0
Ashland KY (H) 29 22
Gallipolis (A) 2 19
Jackson (A) 35 0
Waverly (H) 48 8
Athens (A) 35 0
Cincinnati C.A.P.E. (H) 21 34
Totals 284-122

1985 Bob Lutz 10-3-0
Ironton Opp
Circleville (A) 41 0
Russell KY (H) 18 0
Portsmouth (H) 49 0
Boyd County KY (A) 13 15
Ashland KY (A) 21 6
Athens (H) 32 12
Jackson (H) 53 0
Greenup County KY (A) 28 0
Cincinnati C.A.P.E. (A) 0 12
Gallipolis (H) 14 12

PLAYOFFS
Gallipolis (H) Regional Semi-Final - Tank Stadium 20-9
Thornville Sheridan (N) Regional Final - Spartan Stadium - Portsmouth 33 20
Columbus DeSales (N) State Semi-Final - Spartan Stadium - Portsmouth 19 24

Total 341-110

Third Time in SEOAL:

2006 Merrill Triplett 6 - 5
Ironton Opp
Wheelersburg (A) 24 21
Olentangy Liberty Patriots (A) 14 20
St Thomas More - Ontario (H) 27 7
Jackson (H) 48 20
Chillicothe (A) 14 47
Marietta (H) 28 20
Gallia Academy (H) 7 14
Portsmouth (A) 49 42
Zanesville (A) 48 7
Logan (H) 0 7
Totals Regular Season 259-205

Playoffs
Westfall (A) Westfall 35 42
Totals 294-247

2007 Bob Lutz 5 - 5
Ironton Opp
Wheelersburg (H) 6 39
Olentangy Liberty Patriots (H) 0 59
Ashland (A) 27 7
Jackson (A) (Tigers 600th All Time Win) (OT) 20 14
Chillicothe (H) 34 9
Marietta (A) 61 20
Gallia Academy (A) 29 26
Portsmouth (H) 18 41
Zanesville (H) 22 45
Logan (A) 14 53
Totals 231-313

2008 Bob Lutz 8 - 4
Ironton Opp
Wheelersburg (A) 22 23
Our Lady Of Mt Carmel (CA) (H) 54 6
Gallia Academy (H) 42 6
Ashland (H) 18 6
Logan (A) 10 35
Chillicothe (A) 9 17
Jackson (H) 54 6
Portsmouth (A) 37 6
Nelsonville York (A) 43 28
Warren Local (Vincent) (A) 31 6

Totals Regular Season 320-139

Playoffs Westfall (H) Regional Quarter Final 41 32
New Lexington (A) (Jackson Holzer Field) Regional Semi-Final 6 38
Totals 367-209

[Tigercannon71]

Heres a good some good stats taken from the SEOAL .com site. These are all through the 2007 season so 2008 isnt in there yet. The next closet win percentage is .677. So the other teams still have a long way to go in terms of catching up with us.

wins losses ties winning % titles years.
Ironton (1925) 115 26 04 .807 14 25

[ItownHosscat]

TC just letting you know you got mail.

[grizzlynatural]

Well lets also take into consideration how long all these teams have been here too. Ironton tucked tail and left the league when the going got tough. Logan remained in the league through their "O'fer" seasons as did Gallia and Jackson.


Lets once again bring up a time in the program that the kids playing right now werent even alive to see. Ahhhhh yeah, the good old days. The days that the kids can only hear about today.



As for you BuckeyeCav, i was here after a Logan loss. I do believe you hid as you have for the past 2 years after we beat you. Your very lucky it was a rainy night or we'd hung 40+ on you.
Have a good day everyone

[85inside]

TC:

I can "cook numbers" too. Ironton, 1 championship title run in the last 12 non league years.

Also, from 1972-1991, ironton played in the SEOAL and only 1 or 2 teams in each region made the playoffs. Very easy to think that at the very least 1978, 1981 and 1984 Undefeated Ironton teams that did not make the playoffs, would have had legit shots at the title. Many in ironton still believe that the 1978 and 1981 teams were 2 of ironton's finest!

[Tigercannon71]

Im just saying numbers can be decieving and you can cook them to fit if you look at it in teh right light.

[BuckeyeCAV]

TC:

I can "cook numbers" too. Ironton, 1 championship title run in the last 12 non league years.

Also, from 1972-1991, ironton played in the SEOAL and only 1 or 2 teams in each region made the playoffs. Very easy to think that at the very least 1978, 1981 and 1984 Undefeated Ironton teams that did not make the playoffs, would have had legit shots at the title. Many in ironton still believe that the 1978 and 1981 teams were 2 of ironton's finest!

Wrong.................

Ironton played in the SEOAL from 1925-1931 / 1968-1985 / 2006-2010