ironton 2009

[85inside]

Michael Lamb is one of the most gifted athletes I have seen in some time. Ironton has been loaded with unreal talent over the years:

Mike Smith
Mark Snyder
Jim Morris
Dennis Bacon
Vince Murdock
Troy Sands
Travis Wylie
Josh Sands
Jermon Jackson
Marcus Williams
Lukas Morris
Jason Harmon
Tyler Whaley
Mark Lutz
Mark Fields

Those are just a few of the great athletes Ironton has had, in just the past 20 years or so. I think a team made up of Michael Lamb, Lukas Morris, Major Brice, Chance Freeman, Tommy Waginger, John Monnig. Jon Schweickart is an extrodinarily talented team.
Ironton is not and has not been short on athleticism over the years. We have truly been blessed to see that type of talent in Ironton.

"You can't make an athlete smarter", could you explain that a little bit?

[osu 77]

OSU77,
We have on staff -- Coach Coburn and he is with them everyday -- he is a Coach.
Why the negativity OSU77?

Is he with them daily in the weight room not on the practise field? There is nothing negative about what I am saying I am just trying to understand why the kids are so far out of shape.

[Tigercannon71]

Coaches can only push you so hard. Its up to you to want to do the work. The coahces can only do so much. Each inidvidual needs to push themselves. Thsiis also where some senior leadership comes into play. If those are the guys slacking then the underclassmen will be following in their lead.

[Mouth's Better Half]

I can only think of one or two starters on the team that were out of shape. P.M. me and tell me who you think was out of shape.

[osu 77]

Coaches can only push you so hard. Its up to you to want to do the work. The coahces can only do so much. Each inidvidual needs to push themselves. Thsiis also where some senior leadership comes into play. If those are the guys slacking then the underclassmen will be following in their lead.

I cannot agree with you leaders are at every grade level. Then I guess you would say that Ironton did not have any Leaders the last two years. I seen many Leaders but they have been pushed aside or not motivated.

[Tigercannon71]

From what I saw in the field the so called leaders werent much.

[osu 77]

From what I saw in the field the so called leaders werent much.

I would have loved to Coached the talent on the field. Mr. Lamb might be the best defensive/offensive linemen in the whole area and you will see his leadership skills come basketball season.

[Mouth's Better Half]

I believe Lamb will be a leader come b-ball season.

[gotigers]

From what I saw in the field the so called leaders werent much.

I would have loved to Coached the talent on the field. Mr. Lamb might be the best defensive/offensive linemen in the whole area and you will see his leadership skills come basketball season.

I get so sick of your Ironton football coach bashing especially because you think you are such a great coach, so...

True or False? You coached the 7th grade football team that are 9th graders this season? True!

True or False? You lost by 30 to Rock Hill at home? True!

True or False? Since you haven't coached this team in the 8th and 9th grade they haven't lost a game, including to Rock Hill? True!

GET OVER YOURSELF!!!

GO TIGERS!!!

[85inside]

To my knowledge, the 7th grade Ironton coaches two years ago were Bruce Roach II and Richard Price. I dont know who OSU77 is, but I am about 99.9% sure it's not either one of those two.

[Tigercannon71]

From what I saw in the field the so called leaders werent much.

I would have loved to Coached the talent on the field. Mr. Lamb might be the best defensive/offensive linemen in the whole area and you will see his leadership skills come basketball season.

Just cause your the best player your not automatically the leader. Heres the thing there might have been a lot of talent on the field, but its useless if those that have the talent arent willing to put forth an effort. We saw that against New Lex. I agree we had a lot of talent this year. Coach Lutz did a great job with them, but he can only do so much. Those guys have to go out and execute and want to play the game. He can give them pep talks all he wants. I know from experience he can motivate you with his pre game speeches and half time talks, but unless each player wants it in their heart talent dont mean a hill of beans.

[Amen Corner]

With the Talent Ironton has coming back, i believe they have their sights set on winning the SEOAL.
Since coming back in the league, Ironton has only one league title and that is in Golf (2008).

[Amen Corner]

From what I saw in the field the so called leaders werent much.

That is called ''The Grand Illusion''

[85inside]

Im a bit confused with tiger Cannons posts the past 3 years or so. In 2006, it was the coaches fault we went 6-5 and lost in the first round of the playoffs. I am assuming in 2006, our kids had heart, mega speed and were tremendously dedicated to the weightroom. I also assume the kids of 2006 were great leaders on the field. They just had horrible coaching I guess?
Now, it is exactly the opposite. The coaching is great, but the kids have let us down.

That is ridiculous TigerCannon. How can you sit and watch a team for 2 hours a week and tell what the kids have and dont have? How can you sit in the stands for 2 hours a week and tell what the coaches do?

How about this. How about give the Ironton Fighting Tigers football program a pat on the back and say nice season. Lets get them next year. The 2009 season has alot of great potential. We have alot of good kids coming back and we have a great potential to see a great coaching record fall to a great Hall of Fame Coach in Bob Lutz. 2009 will be a year of celebration. New schools, new records and hopefully a great run in the playoffs. If we do have a great season, it will be because we are a team. A team of Fighting tigers that are made up of coaches and players. Not one or the other. We win as a team, we lose as a team.
2006 is history and now 2008 is too. Lets move forward!

[Westfan]

I only saw Ironton against New Lex, but as an outsider whom played against and watched Ironton for a long time, that was the least aggressive-most out of shape Ironton team I believe I've ever seen. From talking to some fans, the talent level is not what it was so the coaching staff cannot motivate with PT or a lack of. 2 or 3 of the lineman just looked lazy and were winded 2 series into the game. They used to dominate the opposition physically and impose their will later in the game. From what I saw, New Lex did the opposite to them. Also the speed and skill is not close to what it used to be. Brice was a nice back, but after him their was a big drop off in skill. Ironton used to have 4 or 5 guys that talented.

[sider]

I'll second what Siderman said, I watched Ironton on film this year and just looked out of shape. This problem would be both the kids and coaching's fault...not sure what kind of exercise program Ironton has, but apprentently everyone needs to step it up to be better. Secondly, Ironton had a good year, I know 8-4 by Ironton's standards isn't up to snuff, but they lost to a great Logan team, a good Burg team, a regional champion in New Lex, and a good Chillicothe team, but if the players get in the weight room, they could be very good next year

[sinker]

i thought the return of the "dynamic duo" would take care of merrill triplett's supposed lack of team discipline! seems to me mr. triplett's west team was VERY disciplined this year. isn't it funny how no one is calling for the duo's heads like they did mr. triplett's when he was at the helm?

[Tigercannon71]

85, that team in 06 was mega talented. It was much better than a 6-5 record with a 1st round loss. That team won with talent and heart despite the lack of coaching. These teams the past two years were missing that heart that makes teams win. They got the coaching, but they just didnt want it. Ill say this several didnt want it bad enough and you know the old saying 1 bad apple spoils the bunch.

Sider this is about Ironton 2009 not about any other team. So you need to save that talk for the West 2009 thread.

[85inside]

actually, you made it about West, when you said there was a "lack of coaching" in 2006 at Ironton. You see, I dont know if you realize this but West's coach in 2008, was ironton's coach in 2006. Could you give me a couple of examples of how the 2006 team was "mega talented" and the 2008 team was not?
You are speaking as if you have several years of "coaching experience" yourself. Other than a brief stint in the Ironton Minor league baseball scene, could you enlighten us on your coaching experience?
From sitting in your seat on the 20 yard line of tanks Stadium, could you enlighten us on how you know kids of 2008 had "no heart" and kids of 2006 had alot of heart?
Could it be that a possible spurned attempt to coach in 2006, is fueling this discussion? How could a team of no heart and no weight training, go 11-1 at West this year? Yes sir, this thread is about West football. you see, you not only put down every Ironton Fighting tiger football player and coach of the 2008 team, you also put down the coaches of Ironton's 2006 team.
For someone to put down 16 and 17 year olds, without having any real knowledge of their situation is real classy.

[Amen Corner]

I think he's dazed from the ''Rock Bottom'' put on him.