8-0 Valley @ 8-0 Wheelersburg SOC2 Championship

[oldschoolcorner7]

I agree that both of these teams should and will go deep into the playoffs. I WILL be at EVERY VALLEY GAME as I have for the last four years and hope to be at EVERY Burg game as they are VERY good.
I disagree, that VALLEY "played the perfect game for them". THEY had a ton of mistakes that led to flags and also a "phantom" holding penalty as well. BOTH teams can point to mistakes made and as MANY said before the game was played... it could go either way!!
Very proud of my boys and ALL the Valley boys, coaches, and faithful!!
I truly do not feel ANY team travels as well as VALLEY (except for maybe the Burg) and am always proud (even a little sad at times) when we have twice the number of fans as a home team on their field.
I am not sure that any of the boys from either team will play in such as a "electric" environment as was at burg Friday night. It was DEFINITELY the place to be!!!
Good fortune and No injuries for both teams. represent the south WELL!!!

[nutronron2012]

I agree that both of these teams should and will go deep into the playoffs. I WILL be at EVERY VALLEY GAME as I have for the last four years and hope to be at EVERY Burg game as they are VERY good.
I disagree, that VALLEY "played the perfect game for them". THEY had a ton of mistakes that led to flags and also a "phantom" holding penalty as well. BOTH teams can point to mistakes made and as MANY said before the game was played... it could go either way!!
Very proud of my boys and ALL the Valley boys, coaches, and faithful!!
I truly do not feel ANY team travels as well as VALLEY (except for maybe the Burg) and am always proud (even a little sad at times) when we have twice the number of fans as a home team on their field.
I am not sure that any of the boys from either team will play in such as a "electric" environment as was at burg Friday night. It was DEFINITELY the place to be!!!
Good fortune and No injuries for both teams. represent the south WELL!!!

Very well said

[fbnut]

The ultimate domination is on the scoreboard. This group of seniors were 0-3 vs valley and never won the SOC. how many has valley won in a row now? how long has it been since they lost a regular season game? How many soc championships in a row? The answer to those questions is Domination. They have dominated the Soc for 3 yrs. The burgs dominant against inferior competition. Crabtree and his coaching staff has owned the burg. If they end up playing the top 3 teams in the region it will be a very short run.

Valley has done a nice job the past three years being sound with the ball, having great talent, and excellent coaching. But Valley squeaking out wins the past two years against the Burg with that talent, I wouldn't be bragging.

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I'm not from valley, I'm a burg alum. Neutron what about my post do you disagree with me about. That valley has won the last 3 soc championships, that the burg seniors will graduate with a 0-3 record against valley, that Crabtree has come up with schemes to totally shut the burg down the last 2 yrs. do you honestly think the burg can beat Hartley, st cl, Liberty union?

[fbnut]

The ultimate domination is on the scoreboard. This group of seniors were 0-3 vs valley and never won the SOC. how many has valley won in a row now? how long has it been since they lost a regular season game? How many soc championships in a row? The answer to those questions is Domination. They have dominated the Soc for 3 yrs. The burgs dominant against inferior competition. Crabtree and his coaching staff has owned the burg. If they end up playing the top 3 teams in the region it will be a very short run.

Valley has done a nice job the past three years being sound with the ball, having great talent, and excellent coaching. But Valley squeaking out wins the past two years against the Burg with that talent, I wouldn't be bragging.

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Whats your point. 5 soc championships in the past 14 yrs, that's not something to be proud of that's embarrassing.

[nutronron2012]

The ultimate domination is on the scoreboard. This group of seniors were 0-3 vs valley and never won the SOC. how many has valley won in a row now? how long has it been since they lost a regular season game? How many soc championships in a row? The answer to those questions is Domination. They have dominated the Soc for 3 yrs. The burgs dominant against inferior competition. Crabtree and his coaching staff has owned the burg. If they end up playing the top 3 teams in the region it will be a very short run.

Valley has done a nice job the past three years being sound with the ball, having great talent, and excellent coaching. But Valley squeaking out wins the past two years against the Burg with that talent, I wouldn't be bragging.

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I'm not from valley, I'm a burg alum. Neutron what about my post do you disagree with me about. That valley has won the last 3 soc championships, that the burg seniors will graduate with a 0-3 record against valley, that Crabtree has come up with schemes to totally shut the burg down the last 2 yrs. do you honestly think the burg can beat Hartley, st cl, Liberty union?

I agree Valley has won the last three championship's and have excellent coaches. But I wouldn't call it domination. It was just 2 evenly matched teams going at it. Burg had the ability to win, and could have won. That's why I don't call it domination. And I also believe that Burg can and will compete with the top teams in division 5. Burg has a decent defense and an of fence that can score in bunches from anywhere on the field. I am just a fan and don't want to disrespect Burg or any of their fans.

[blue53]

I agree nutronron, Domination is crazy talk. All three games came down to a few plays this way or that. Valley just came out on top. People can love these victories over any other, as they should, because Burg has been the bench mark for many years as great team great program.

[fbnut]

I agree nutronron, Domination is crazy talk. All three games came down to a few plays this way or that. Valley just came out on top. People can love these victories over any other, as they should, because Burg has been the bench mark for many years as great team great program.

Valley is the benchmark now!

[vladimir]

I have to laugh when all this talk of domination comes up and people want to bring things up about what went on 30-yrs ago. Well, I guess we could all get our history books out and read about the Egyptian and Roman empires and learn about how dominate they were. Then I guess we have to ask ourselves, "Is any of that relevant to the world we live in today?" Are either one of those countries dominate-world powers today? No, they are not. The thing is, it's history and living in the past is just that, it will forever be in the past. It has nothing to do with the world we live in today. You are only as good as your last year, game, play, etc. If you get into a mind set that people should just respect you for what you've accomplished in the past and not continue to better yourself and respect others, it will lead to arrogance. As we learned from the two mentioned empires, it ultimately lead to their demise.

It's one thing to challenge a team and put a sign in the trophy case that says, "What will be here in 2013?" Instead of, "Reserved for the 2013 SOCII trophy." Expecting that just because of some past history that few care about, the rest of the SOCII teams just lay down, and give up the trophy without a fight. I'm sorry but that's not the way the world works, and if it's a coach teaching kids this they better ask themselves what they are really teaching. As one W'burg poster said earlier, that is arrogance, and ultimately has lead to nothing being put in the trophy case for 2013.

[fbnut]

So what do you do in front of the school now where valley is painted on the hill under minford with the check. Do you put an oops out beside it?

[nutronron2012]

The game re run is on right now on time warner channel 24

[vladimir]

They just need to learn for it.

[wobycat]

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Whats your point. 5 soc championships in the past 14 yrs, that's not something to be proud of that's embarrassing.[/quote]

Let me know when Valley gets to 5.

[Crab's Brother]

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Whats your point. 5 soc championships in the past 14 yrs, that's not something to be proud of that's embarrassing.[/quote]

Let me know when Valley gets to 5.[/quote]

Valley has 5 in the last 13 years. 3 in the 8 years they've been in the "big boy" league.

[wobycat]

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Whats your point. 5 soc championships in the past 14 yrs, that's not something to be proud of that's embarrassing.

Let me know when Valley gets to 5.[/quote]

Valley has 5 in the last 13 years. 3 in the 8 years they've been in the "big boy" league.[/quote]

Ok. Well let me know when they get to 5 in the big boy league. At least 5 in 14.

[Crab's Brother]

They have been in the big boy league 8 years. They have won 3 championships. In that time, the Burg has 2.

[Crab's Brother]

No matter who wins this game. Both teams should represent well in the playoffs. We will all be rooting for each other come week 11 and beyond. How amazing would it be to see both these teams in week 15?

Valley 28
Wheelersburg 17

If Valley holds Burg to 17 points, I'll be amazed. Valley couldn't hold Portsmouth to 17. For Valley to win they will have to outscore the Pirates in a high scoring game not a low one, in my opinion. The Indians are good at D but they aren't that good.

Still amazed Portsmouth and Northwest put up more points on Valley than the Pirates did?

[Bo_Diaz]

Keep moving the goal posts! I realize it's tough to accept defeat to a team that you owned for the better part of 3 decades. I think if we have learned anything it is you keep saying Valley can't/won't and they do. Once they do, then another marker is thrown out. We realize that we can't match Burg's history, but we're writing a pretty good one of our own. The previous decades of "dominance" have no bearing going forward. Burg is still a great program and community, but the last 10 years tells me they won't dominate the next 40 years like they did the previous 40. Then they can be like Michigan fans that talk about those pre WWII titles. I'm just amazed by the refusing to recognize that Burg isn't the top program right now. Valley has squashed every myth about their program, some people just can't swallow the truth.

[N4da'score]

No matter who wins this game. Both teams should represent well in the playoffs. We will all be rooting for each other come week 11 and beyond. How amazing would it be to see both these teams in week 15?

Valley 28
Wheelersburg 17

If Valley holds Burg to 17 points, I'll be amazed. Valley couldn't hold Portsmouth to 17. For Valley to win they will have to outscore the Pirates in a high scoring game not a low one, in my opinion. The Indians are good at D but they aren't that good.

Still amazed Portsmouth and Northwest put up more points on Valley than the Pirates did?

TOUCHE'

[d-5]

Keep moving the goal posts! I realize it's tough to accept defeat to a team that you owned for the better part of 3 decades. I think if we have learned anything it is you keep saying Valley can't/won't and they do. Once they do, then another marker is thrown out. We realize that we can't match Burg's history, but we're writing a pretty good one of our own. The previous decades of "dominance" have no bearing going forward. Burg is still a great program and community, but the last 10 years tells me they won't dominate the next 40 years like they did the previous 40. Then they can be like Michigan fans that talk about those pre WWII titles. I'm just amazed by the refusing to recognize that Burg isn't the top program right now. Valley has squashed every myth about their program, some people just can't swallow the truth.

Peace and love my friend, peace and Love , Valley has Burgs number in football for now Tell pmow3 I said Hi

[Jesco White]

Dominance is a relative word in my opinion, particularly here. If the rolls were reversed and Burg had won 29 consecutive regular season games along with 3 SOC titles in a row and back-to-back Regional Runners-Up, with this post-season pending....what would the view be? I think it would be viewed as "domination" regardless of how competitive any of the games were. Why do I think this? Because I think it would be considered status quo given the Pirates aforementioned history. And, that's fair enough for me.

I'm not saying Valley is dominant, but over the past 24 years, we're working on our 9th undefeated regular season (with a tough battle with arch-rival Minford standing in the way of that), we've clinched our 8th playoff appearance, we have 4 Regional Runner-Up Trophies in that time, and 10 or 11 league titles between 2 divisions. That's a solid run and our program is focused on the future and hoping to continue to prosper thru hard work.

If you want a "history fact"....Valley is the only school in the entire history of the SOC to win an SOC title when the league was one division, a league title in the SOC 1 and a league title in the SOC 2. Nobody is doubting Burg's past, but I think Valley has earned some respect at this point!

** Disclaimer, I know many of you have already given that respect and this post is in no way aimed at you. It's just showing that we all have a "HISTORY". 8)