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ironman02 wrote:Congratulations to Jackson's representatives on the All-SEOAL team.

1st Team All-SEOAL

Alan Parana - RB/DB - SR
Reagan Williams - TE/LB - JR
Gabe Griffiths - RB/DB - JR
Austin Fairchild - G/DT - JR
Hunter Sexton - QB/DB - SO
Elijah Woolum - OT/DT - SO

Honorable Mention

Cole Bachtel - TE/LB - JR
Raymond Potter - G/LB - FR

Of the eight players mentioned above, seven of them will return next season. There are only five other players from Logan, GAHS, Warren, and Portsmouth on this team COMBINED that will return next season, which should bode well for the Ironmen in 2014. I can't remember the last time Jackson had two sophomores on the All-SEOAL team, and I'm not sure if there has ever been a freshman, albeit an honorable mention selection. The cupboard is fully stocked with Jackson losing one regular starter (Parana) and their kicker (Voiles) to graduation. Everyone else is back. As long as this group works hard this off-season and gets healthy, next season has the potential to be very special in Jackson.


Looks like some outstanding players here


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iman24 wrote:Logan will be reign champ until Jackson unseats them with all the returning player from all league list Jackson has to be favored to win league next year. The big question is that Logan is on stable ground coaching wise where Jackson is in limbo with 3-2 vote last year and new school board coming on board. Jackson needs to make the change in staff or give them the support and put this program on solid ground their to much talent coming for a staff that's just trying to survive. On solid ground Jackson could make a run like Logan did in 2000's.
A good observation here iman24, it is not like the kids and the staff are unaware of the "elephant" in the room on the coaching renewal, they are clearly aware of it, and being in limbo provides little if no momentum for the kids and program. It would be nice (who knows maybe it has already happened) for the administration/AD and head coach to sit down, visit any issues, and be proactive and maintain some "momentum" into the off-season.

From what I gather the banquet was upbeat, won the last 3 games of the season finishing with a thrashing of Gallia (with Rafferty and Griffiths, and others missing) and a lot of the kids already back at it with work on their own prior to the non-mandatory strength training which starts in December.

I maintain given the situation, it would be nice for the staff to be proactive here, take the first step make it crystal clear they are focused and excited about 2014 Ironmen football and ready to go. Sitting back waiting on things to shape out on their own may not work...but what do I know lol. Ironman02 synopsis above statistically makes a pretty good point, and anyone familiar with the program 6th-11th grades knows we don't want to burn a transition year. Heck, when you have Logan and Gallia posters on here urging you to make a change lol that should tell you something right away...don't lol.


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If the program is in limbo, its senior leadership, or as the case goes, junior leadership that needs to to take focus in the off season. Believe me, been threw it, without Michael Maulti, Mike Zordich, Matt McGloin etc etc , whom knows where the Penn State program would be today.Its a different level, but its the kids program, they get one shot, take the reigns and go for it!


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Well, ironman02 has convinced me.

FIRE ANDY HALL!

Need to make sure the Red Machine can't catch the Chiefs for the total SEOAL football championships crown.


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LoganLocos wrote:Well, ironman02 has convinced me.

FIRE ANDY HALL!

Need to make sure the Red Machine can't catch the Chiefs for the total SEOAL football championships crown.
LoganLocos, I agree "Lets Fire Hall" What are the people in Jackson smoking or drinking in there Kool-Aid!


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LoganLocos wrote:Well, ironman02 has convinced me.

FIRE ANDY HALL!

Need to make sure the Red Machine can't catch the Chiefs for the total SEOAL football championships crown.
Oh you Logan guys are comedians alright, don't quit your day jobs. In 2017 the total SEOAL titles will be a tie between Jackson and Logan...no changes full speed ahead darn the torpedoes...


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Why bother to play the games over the next few years ? Why not just hand the titles over to that juggernaut ? Fire that stupid coach. Anyone who can't beat Wellston, Waverly and all the rest of the cupcakes on that schedule should hang their head in shame. And just think -- he blew the Logan game. Couldn't beat a team who had lost 2 QBs, their WR Captain, several linemen and didn't even get starters out from the previous years team with a rookie coach in charge playing programs he didn't know anything about. Its obvious Jackson has a state champion team that shouldn't lose a game for years and years if they just get someone who actually knows football and plays all those studs riding the bench.


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Paladin wrote:Why bother to play the games over the next few years ? Why not just hand the titles over to that juggernaut ? Fire that stupid coach. Anyone who can't beat Wellston, Waverly and all the rest of the cupcakes on that schedule should hang their head in shame. And just think -- he blew the Logan game. Couldn't beat a team who had lost 2 QBs, their WR Captain, several linemen and didn't even get starters out from the previous years tem with a rookie coach in charge playing programs he didn't know anything about. Its obvious Jackson has a state champion team that shouldn't lose a game for years and years if they just get someone who actually knows football and plays all those studs riding the bench.
Yea, hire Palodian. He used to be a great coach, and he forgot more about football than that darn Andy Hall knows. :lol:


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Paladin wrote:Why bother to play the games over the next few years ? Why not just hand the titles over to that juggernaut ? Fire that stupid coach. Anyone who can't beat Wellston, Waverly and all the rest of the cupcakes on that schedule should hang their head in shame. And just think -- he blew the Logan game. Couldn't beat a team who had lost 2 QBs, their WR Captain, several linemen and didn't even get starters out from the previous years team with a rookie coach in charge playing programs he didn't know anything about. Its obvious Jackson has a state champion team that shouldn't lose a game for years and years if they just get someone who actually knows football and plays all those studs riding the bench.
Oh Paladin you are the gift that just keeps on giving and giving, lol.

Yes Waverly and Wellston...no comment, pleading the 5th.

But yes to West Jefferson, Athens and Wheelersburg also...so give us some credit man 8)

Jackson has an open date or two and I hear it may be St Charles again or DeSales, and West Jefferson returns the home and home game to Jackson next year. So we are stepping it up, again give us some credit. Not all Waverly and Wellston on the schedule.

And we would be insane to change course, but a 3-2 vote last year has us on dicey ground...those BOE members must be some of the SEO fans you make fun of for being clueless lol.


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Ground Buck wrote:
Paladin wrote:Why bother to play the games over the next few years ? Why not just hand the titles over to that juggernaut ? Fire that stupid coach. Anyone who can't beat Wellston, Waverly and all the rest of the cupcakes on that schedule should hang their head in shame. And just think -- he blew the Logan game. Couldn't beat a team who had lost 2 QBs, their WR Captain, several linemen and didn't even get starters out from the previous years tem with a rookie coach in charge playing programs he didn't know anything about. Its obvious Jackson has a state champion team that shouldn't lose a game for years and years if they just get someone who actually knows football and plays all those studs riding the bench.
Yea, hire Palodian. He used to be a great coach, and he forgot more about football than that darn Andy Hall knows. :lol:
Ground Buck, Come on Man...Paladin not going to coach against Logan, be serious.


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moonshine wrote:
LoganLocos wrote:Well, ironman02 has convinced me.

FIRE ANDY HALL!

Need to make sure the Red Machine can't catch the Chiefs for the total SEOAL football championships crown.
LoganLocos, I agree "Lets Fire Hall" What are the people in Jackson smoking or drinking in there Kool-Aid!
OR IS THIS JUST THE BOE?


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I wouldn't let Paladin coach our 3rd and 4th grade cheerleading squad.


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Paladin wrote:Why bother to play the games over the next few years ? Why not just hand the titles over to that juggernaut ? Fire that stupid coach. Anyone who can't beat Wellston, Waverly and all the rest of the cupcakes on that schedule should hang their head in shame. And just think -- he blew the Logan game. Couldn't beat a team who had lost 2 QBs, their WR Captain, several linemen and didn't even get starters out from the previous years team with a rookie coach in charge playing programs he didn't know anything about. Its obvious Jackson has a state champion team that shouldn't lose a game for years and years if they just get someone who actually knows football and plays all those studs riding the bench.

Hall has never lost to Waverly, just for the sake of accuracy.

I suppose Jackson was completely healthy against Logan, right? Not even close. Hall blew the game against Logan? I remember some costly mistakes during that game, but I can't think of any glaring mistakes that should've been attributed to Hall or his staff. It was a couple blown coverages, a muffed punt,and a stupid personal foul that cost Jackson that game. By the way, Paladin, have you watched film of that game because I know you weren't there. Ask the real Logan fans...the game could've easily gone the other way, but Logan executed better down the stretch and won it in the final minute.

Clearly you're just being yourself, but no one is saying that Jackson has a state championship caliber football team coming back. We're simply saying there is a lot of talent returning and we're looking forward to what should be some good football teams in Jackson the next few years. Why don't you venture down to poor, old southeastern Ohio and watch the Jackson-Logan game next year and see for yourself?

Some of us have respect for the Logan program and enjoy the rivalry between the two most successful programs in SEOAL history. You obviously have respect for no one. Your behavior on here is an embarrassment to a good football program.


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Jackson feels like Wolfords last year something was not quit right nobody knew what but something. Here's what we do know 2011 11-1 Osborne transferred to Jackson 2012 Dugan goes to Oak Hill to coach. Jackson on 21 regular season winning streak then Jackson lose to Granville and then to Athens in close games Jackson could have won. Then some drama after Athens game between staff and a three year starters brother and then we go to Wheelersburg and Jackson lays down and yes a few kids where sick but it was so bad they threatened to take JI,s off helmets at halftime season ends 5-5 with 15 seniors 3-2 school board vote. 2013 D1 prospect choose not to play senior year at Jackson other senior choose not to come out and Soph tailback frustrated with staff at 7on7 quits he's was the breakaway runner we missed all year we go 6-4. The 3-2 vote was talked about all year and will coach stay or go? What ever it is the AD needs to set down with the coach figure it out Jackson football draws kids to it kids to play just to be on team if you lose kids that are the main players then something's wrong. Fix it and league titles and weeks 12 and 13 will be played by the Ironmen in the future.


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iman24 wrote:Jackson feels like Wolfords last year something was not quit right nobody knew what but something. Here's what we do know 2011 11-1 Osborne transferred to Jackson 2012 Dugan goes to Oak Hill to coach. Jackson on 21 regular season winning streak then Jackson lose to Granville and then to Athens in close games Jackson could have won. Then some drama after Athens game between staff and a three year starters brother and then we go to Wheelersburg and Jackson lays down and yes a few kids where sick but it was so bad they threatened to take JI,s off helmets at halftime season ends 5-5 with 15 seniors 3-2 school board vote. 2013 D1 prospect choose not to play senior year at Jackson other senior choose not to come out and Soph tailback frustrated with staff at 7on7 quits he's was the breakaway runner we missed all year we go 6-4. The 3-2 vote was talked about all year and will coach stay or go? What ever it is the AD needs to set down with the coach figure it out Jackson football draws kids to it kids to play just to be on team if you lose kids that are the main players then something's wrong. Fix it and league titles and weeks 12 and 13 will be played by the Ironmen in the future.
I don't understand. All of these things are Hall's fault? It was great for Jackson that Osborne transferred in. No doubt about it. Do they go 11-1 without him? Probably not, but you can't say for sure. Dugan took an opportunity to be a head coach, and he's doing an outstanding job at Oak Hill. Losing to Granville and Athens was tough, especially since both were close losses. The injuries, sickness, and frustration from losing two games in a row created a bad situation at Wheelersburg last year, and that was certainly an embarrassing loss. The argument between an assistant and a player's relative was a classic case of frustration and people losing their tempers. Again, not Hall's fault, but that contributed to the loss at Burg. I thought Hall did an outstanding job of getting his team back after that loss, and getting them to play well. Yeah, they lost to Chillicothe and GAHS in close games, but they played hard.

I don't know why Betschel chose to leave, but his family could afford to send him to IMG Academy and he thought that was his best route to a D1 offer. Does he have any offers? Hopefully he does, and if he doesn't, hopefully he gets one.

Parks missed his entire junior season due to a shoulder injury and decided not to play football this year because he has a chance to play college baseball. I don't see how that's Hall's fault, and it's probably a smart move by Nathan to not risk injury.

I don't know why Burd didn't play, but hopefully he comes back next year. There are about 50 or more other kids who did play, though, so they must've been willing to play for Hall.

I don't have a relative on the team and I don't know many of the kids personally, but I haven't heard anything about them not wanting to play for him. It seems to me that he's very enthusiastic, cares about Jackson football, and does his best for the players and the football program. Clearly that's not good enough for many people. What does everyone want? Every single coach that I can remember at Jackson has been criticized, even when they've been successful. There are just a lot of unrealistic people apparently, who want things their way and expect the coach to please every single person in the town.


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Who's to blame ? Thats what needs answered . All I'm saying is get it fixed. Next year should be special not full of distractions.


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Parks is not a factor in this. He was badly injured and football is not his favorite and playing football would greatly add to the chance of not being able to play his favorite sport, which is baseball. He really wants to have a shot to play baseball around here...he's a great kid that has made a decision with his head and not his heart.....I wish him the very best and hopefully he can get a chance to play at Rio or Shawnee.


For all the negatives or perceived negatives floating around Hall and the program.....I think he's cleaned it up and definitely deserves another year. The 3-2 vote was going into this year, I'm not an administrator in the know....but from a fan with no family members or ties to who I want to play....I think he grades pretty high this year. Rallying to finish strong was big in my book and the offense in week 10....that stuff was great to see.


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iman24 wrote:Next year should be special not full of distractions.
We can definitely agree on that. Well said.


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Andy Hall is welcome to coach down here. Seriously, good job by Logan on the hire of Billy Burke. Jackson will be fine. Logan will be fine. Both these programs are in good hands.
My concern is Gallia and Warren and where their programs are headed. What changes are needed for them, if any.
Also, back to the original topic, WHO is going to join the SEOAL, if anyone. I can't see the league with 4 teams for very long. If 1 more school leaves, that would probably be the end.

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Jackson's All Southeast District Selections, just in case anyone was wondering...

1st Team

Gabe Griffiths - RB
Reagan Williams - LB
Alan Parana - DB
Jimmy Voiles - K

Honorable Mention

Hunter Sexton - QB
Austin Fairchild - G


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