WK6 Minford 16 Wheelersburg 15 SOC II

[drrabbit]

I don't know where the rumor got started that Wheelersburg has a senior offensive line. On offense, Wheelersburg has only one senior on the line. And while Foose is amazing, it is still a young line with with four juniors. It was one of the reasons that it took them a little over a half of a football game to gel against Ironton. The nice thing was they got more effective as that game went on.

But Wheelersburg gets to basically keep this Offensive line for another year. The defensive line is another story with mostly seniors, a couple of them three-year starters and while they are 'small' they are quick and tough.

[fan4sure]

Hey Trojan FB Alum because DaBurg smashed and stomped on your trojans dont think they will hang points like that on everyone they play from here on out. There's just something about the SOC 2 games that brings out the best in most of our teams so go lick your wounds (still appearent) and watch the SOC 2 roll. Also I like Burg in this one BIG. As for the running backs dont read this crap from all these armchair "wanted to BE's" just play your game and the chips will fall where they may. Good Luck to all the SOC 2 teams this year can see 2 or 3 in playoffs again this year.

[sider]

Wheelersburg is too fast in their front 7 to go sideline to sideline, which is what Minford tries to do on those counters. Burg may overpursue some and it work, but it won't work consistant enough to win the game. I haven't seen Minford this year, but I've seen Burg and the only thing to do is go right at them. Their D-line is not real big. Cut down the splits and go right at them and negate the speed. From what I've heard though, Minford doesn't have the horses up front.

As for the West stuff, I made a post trying to raz Demaniac after I asked if Burg could be peaking too soon like West did last year. How that turned into who has the best RB is beyond me.

Everyone in the county knows the best way to beat wheelersburg year in and year out is to run right at them...you can usually move the ball, espicially in the first half...but Burg always finds a way to make adjustments and outsmart and out athlete the other team...in which they usually win the game...thats why they have such a good program.

I watch Minford vs. Oak Hill, even though I don't think they showed up that game, they don't seem like they had what it takes up front...everyone talked about how they returned everyone, and only lost a few players, however the players they lost were key lineman that had 2-3 years of varsity experience, teams with young lines very rarely win championships. Even though burgs line has 4 juniors, 3 of those juniors started, and someone who is a junior that had started 2 years is almost the same a senior that started 2 years. In high school its all about varsity experience, old teams win Championships, and Burg is an old team...

There are two places Minford can attack Burg...In the trap game, and in the intermediate passing game. Minford is a good trapping wing-t team, and those quick hitting traps could funnel all of that upfield rush to the outside, and leave the middle wide open. Also, after watching the Vasj game, I came to conclusion that burg struggles with short/mid range passes. A lot of this has to do with the fact burg sits in a 5-2 against spread...minford a veteran quarterback, and speed at the skill positions, this is the place to attack burg. If minford can do that they have a shot.

I think the running back talk got started from someone saying they would rather have Schank than Pendleton, I would for many reasons (no discrediting Schankweiler), and not because I'm a West fan...but thats my opinion everyone is entitled to it, enough about the siders...this is a burg-minford thread.

[burggrad_00]

Little note that WSAZ threw out on FRiday night. Burg avg.(ing) over 50 points a week since the Ironton game.
Thats OFFENSE!! DEFENSE is stellar also. Maybe not the pass DEF so much but still Good!

West, Minford, Waverly, and Valley, You will see. Get your offense some popcorn, cause they will keep you off the field

So true. Look out SOCII here we come!!

Good Luck Pirates!


We are...The BURG!!!

[BigTime]

I have seen both teams this year and will tell you this for a fact. THE BURG IS FOR REAL. I think the Burg wins this game by at least 2 scores and runs the table in the SOC.

Burg - 35
Minford - 21

[wobycat]

No true Burg fan will get on here and predict a blowout against Minford. Minford is very well coached. If a blowout occurs then so be it, but I say there wont be. I saw Minford in a scrimmage and have seen Burg every game.

What I took from scrimmage, the best I could because everything was vanilla, was Minford has small backs who are fast. Slone is one of the top backs in county as well as linebacker. Oesch is a season vetern who will lead his team down the field. The line for Minford is decent but IMO not as good as last year's.

Why I think Burg will win. It's not going to be about better or faster players but more on the lines that Burg has more to offer. Kids can rest longer. Burg has alot of depth, which is important in these games. Fresher legs will beat tired determined legs almost every time.

Why I think Minford will win. Home field is going to help some not that much but will be an added factor. Burg turns the ball over or makes mental mistakes. Burg is over confident after blowing out last 4 opponents.

Good luck to both teams and hopes of an injury free contest.

Burg 27
Minford 20

[vladimir]

Didn't Minford only lose one starter off their O-line, their Center? So this should be the same O-line as last year.

[minfordmamma]

How are the BURG players that had been injured? Will that make a difference in the game? I sure hope that the FALCONS show up this week! The boys can do it if the look deep into their hearts and show that they want this game.

LETS GO FALCONS!!!!

[fbnut]

Wheelersburg is too fast in their front 7 to go sideline to sideline, which is what Minford tries to do on those counters. Burg may overpursue some and it work, but it won't work consistant enough to win the game. I haven't seen Minford this year, but I've seen Burg and the only thing to do is go right at them. Their D-line is not real big. Cut down the splits and go right at them and negate the speed. From what I've heard though, Minford doesn't have the horses up front.

As for the West stuff, I made a post trying to raz Demaniac after I asked if Burg could be peaking too soon like West did last year. How that turned into who has the best RB is beyond me.

The burgs Dline is quite a bit bigger this yr than the past couple yrs , plus they play a lot of different kids across the front that keeps everyone fresh.

[fbnut]

Hey Burg -- that team you thought was so "tough" , VASJ, just got beat again last nite . Looking like a 7 loss season !

Keep up the B.S. !!

When a D1 school plays a D5 school how often do you think the D5 school comes out on top?

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Hey Trojan FB Alum because DaBurg smashed and stomped on your trojans dont think they will hang points like that on everyone they play from here on out. There's just something about the SOC 2 games that brings out the best in most of our teams so go lick your wounds (still appearent) and watch the SOC 2 roll. Also I like Burg in this one BIG. As for the running backs dont read this crap from all these armchair "wanted to BE's" just play your game and the chips will fall where they may. Good Luck to all the SOC 2 teams this year can see 2 or 3 in playoffs again this year.

This isn't just based on the way the Burg put it on us. I watched Minford play us in the scrimmage, and although it was only a scrimmage, and both teams ran very watered down offenses and defenses, it was obvious that if it were not for the fact that no one blitz the middle the Falcons would have a hard time moving the ball against the Trojans, and only scored once as it was. Burgs defense is much better then the Trojans. On offence game breakers are all over the place, with Schank, Lang, Craigmiles, Stegman, and others.

I doubt Burg does beat anyone else the way they did us. That is partly because I think the Trojans got down and kind of gave up( which was very disappointing, but we have obviously fixed that the last 2 weeks). You have to think Burg with the exception of the Ironton game has blown everyone out, not just the Trojans. Minford has only been able to blow out to 0-5 teams in River Valley and Huntington Ross, and struggled against 1-5 Wellston. They have there best win against Coal Grove, who just had a 2 score victory over Greenup who Notre Dame took to the wire. Burg is way to much for Minford. No disrespect to Oak Hill, but Burg is much better then the Oaks.
I don't think this game will be close

[TheMalteseFalcon]

Everyone in the county knows the best way to beat wheelersburg year in and year out is to run right at them...

.... and just which team in the county does that year in and year out ????

[TheMalteseFalcon]

I think the running back talk got started from someone saying they would rather have Schank than Pendleton, I would for many reasons (no discrediting Schankweiler), and not because I'm a West fan...but thats my opinion everyone is entitled to it, enough about the siders...this is a burg-minford thread.

OOPS !! Freudian slip ??


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[Incognito]

This isn't just based on the way the Burg put it on us. I watched Minford play us in the scrimmage, and although it was only a scrimmage, and both teams ran very watered down offenses and defenses, it was obvious that if it were not for the fact that no one blitz the middle the Falcons would have a hard time moving the ball against the Trojans, and only scored once as it was. Burgs defense is much better then the Trojans. On offence game breakers are all over the place, with Schank, Lang, Craigmiles, Stegman, and others.

I doubt Burg does beat anyone else the way they did us. That is partly because I think the Trojans got down and kind of gave up( which was very disappointing, but we have obviously fixed that the last 2 weeks). You have to think Burg with the exception of the Ironton game has blown everyone out, not just the Trojans. Minford has only been able to blow out to 0-5 teams in River Valley and Huntington Ross, and struggled against 1-5 Wellston. They have there best win against Coal Grove, who just had a 2 score victory over Greenup who Notre Dame took to the wire. Burg is way to much for Minford. No disrespect to Oak Hill, but Burg is much better then the Oaks.
I don't think this game will be close

First, did we happen to watch the same scrimmage? Minford moved the ball rather easily, they just ran out of plays because of the 10 play series. But when the teams went down and distance Minford moved the ball up the field and scored while the Trojans were held to a 3 and out. Secondly, only reason why the Coal Grove Greenup game was so close was because of Rashard Carter (sp?). He is a transfer from Ashland Blazer that if Greenup had against Notre Dame, the Titans would have lost by 50. Also I believe his last td came against the second string D for the Hornets. Lastly, Wellson probably plays one of the toughest first 4 games around. Jackson and Nelsonville both 5-0, Minford 4-1,and Waverly at 3-2.
They were also without there best player in those games and with him they should finish with 6-4 record.

Now to the game. Every year Burg comes to the game sporting the fastest most athletic team ever in Burg history. Dont get me wrong they are athletes on that team and they are fast, but not the world beaters they are made out to be. I think this game will be as it has been the past two seasons, a very close game. If Minford comes to play all 4 quarters, which is a MUST against a team like Burg they have a chance to win. If they decide to stay at home for the game, its over fast. Im am positive Coach Daniels and Co. will have this team ready to go come Friday. Best of luck and heres to an injury free contest between two great teams.

[BULDOG]

IMO the key to this game is Minford must be able to pass the football and the OL give Oesch time to throw. The way Schank has been running the football, look out. I'm not sure tha Minford's D can contain him or Craigmiles.

Before last Friday's loss to Oak Hill I would have given Minford a slight edge in this game due to playing in Falcon land. But, now I am going with the Pirates by 10.

[tiger-fan67]

I'll consider Pendelton one of the best backs when i see him get in a little better condition and when i see him do something when he doesnt have the ball...like BLOCK!!...when he isnt getting a handoff he stands up and holds his belly like his lungs are collapsing or something....his power and speed give make him a decent player...but far from a complete player...."The Best players arent judged by what they do with the ball, its what they do without it." When players start understaning that, they will start doin whats important and whats important is winning ballgames...sry i got off topic....Burg 31 Minford 14

[sports junkie]

Burg way to much here 42-7. Pirates make a deep run in the playoffs this year, something Logan knows nothing about.

[iwearblacknikes]

My prediciton:

Burg: 49
Minford: 14

[marshallman]

The last three games between these two has been decided by 7 or less. Minford would always find away to lose in the forth quarter by fumbles, penalties or mental errors.
If Minford can contain burgs big runs and keeps them to 4 yards a pop, have the score close at the half and going in to the forth quarter. Minford should win at home. Minford must not get down by anymore than 14 points at anytime.
Now, if burg rips off 20, 30 yards a pop Minford is in big trouble.
Minford also must pass on the burg. 8 men in the box will force them too.
Minford has three great RB, two fast WR and a three year starter at QB. QB must throw the ball away or throw to his target. Taking sacks like he did in OH will not get the job done against the burg. Also, if Minford has the lead on the burg in the forth they need to have the mental toughness to pull it out.

[sider]

Everyone in the county knows the best way to beat wheelersburg year in and year out is to run right at them...

.... and just which team in the county does that year in and year out ????

If you look at game films from years past (espicially the last four, and trust I have watched a great deal of game film against burg, and played against burg) you will see that teams have the most success running dives and traps against them, because they are smaller up front, they always stop sweep and option because they are so fast...one reason I think they will beat minford...and if you read on later in my post I say, thats teams can't beat them because of their scheme, discipline, and coaching...I'm not knocking Burg, but if you watch the films of them playing Minford the past two years, West the past two years, and Valley last year (in the first half before #7's injury) they ran iso, traps and dives very well against Burg, however all of those teams except one lost, they moved the ball effectively...maybe I should change it "The best way to move the ball against Burg is through a power run game"

I think the running back talk got started from someone saying they would rather have Schank than Pendleton, I would for many reasons (no discrediting Schankweiler), and not because I'm a West fan...but thats my opinion everyone is entitled to it, enough about the siders...this is a burg-minford thread.

OOPS !! Freudian slip ??


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I think that has something to do with dyslexia or poor reading skills on my part, not sub conciously thinking that, I'm sorry I can think of at least 3 backs in this area I would rather have, even though Shankweiler is very good