Week 7: (6-0, 1-0) Valley @ (2-4, 0-1) West

[starbase_318]

You missed the point in my post, Mr. SPAMONY. I don't care about Harbin points or anything else along that line. I believe if you are good enough to take care of business on the field you'll play in week 11. If you don't, you won't and shouldn't play in week 11. It's that simple to me.

As far as the whining comments and all the other noise, no one from Valley is whining. The same posters posting on Valley's threads have been doing so for years. Most of us felt we were a 6-4 team this year and certainly not boasting about back to back titles. Quite frankly, I could care less if someone on this thread respects the team. It's meaningless. It seems to me most of the folks are too consumed with Valley's schedule. It is what it is, eh! My point was, Minford/West threads were/are filled with braggadocio comments when their own schedules don't measure up to the hype and/or whining. Harbin points aside, who in their right mind thinks OH, Piketon, and the OVC schedule (at the current level) think these teams field CONSISTENTLY talented teams. As I said, go to Jackson, Athens, GAHS, Ironton, and numerous other competitive teams, and win, before you come on Valley's thread chest thumping about "How Great Thou Art"!

The same talented west team predicted by many to win the SOC II is still there. When/if they get it together, they'll be a force. I hope it's after this week, though. Gonna be a dandy at the ROCK, as it should be!!

[here4fun]

Getting back to this weeks game imo if West is going to win this one they are going to have to do it in the air.Valleys D will stop the run.On the other side of the ball. Valleys O-line is going to mix it up with the pass and run.But with so many backs they will keep West D-line honest. West is going to have to score first and fast and dont stop. Valley has not had to play behind more than 7 points this year that I can remember but I think this will be a tough game the first half then Valley will pull ahead in the second half Valley 35 West 14

[Ichthus]

Spamony is right. This site was good until Valley had that team last year. Now every fan in Lucasville with a computer gets on here chest thumping all year, while crying when others don't view valley in the same light.

As for the schedule its true. For whatever reason. Your defense doesn't get tested during the season. Valley should have won the region last year. But you had a huge lead, scored 48 points and lost to the same team that scored 14 on West the week before. That shouldn't happen.

Not "EVERY" Vally fan!!! I am proud of Valley and my boys and love High school football!! lets remember it is Highschool football and regardless of school. All the kids put A LOT of time and effort (not to mention the parents) into doing their best.
I enjoy reading all the banter back and forth but we must be careful not to "generalize" or to assume that one fan feels is what "every" fan feels. I am not originally from this area and played much further up north. We had rivals but I have never seen anything like the pride that individuals have in their programs here! It creates A Lot of excitement but sometimes to a fault.

[dreamweaver]

Boy that is the understatement of the year!lol. I hope West wins this but unfortunately, dont see it happening, unless the backs step it up not one notch but several.

[Old Bulldog]

I wish they would open up the SOC 2 to Ironton and Portsmouth. Great gates and more arguments on here!

There have been too many bridges burnt in the past for Portsmouth to join the SOC anytime soon. Ironton scares people due to the success of their football and basketball programs so don't look for them to be coming on board for sometime either.

[Endzone_Warrior]

Is it bash on a Sider week on SEOP?? I must have missed the memo.
Valley fans enjoy defending the SOC crown, because it's not gonna happen again for awhile IMO.

[coop]

Is it bash on a Sider week on SEOP?? I must have missed the memo.
Valley fans enjoy defending the SOC crown, because it's not gonna happen again for awhile IMO.

Guess I missed it as well...I was sure it was "bash Valleys schedule all year long" year. LOL.

THIS Valley fan/alum is NOT bashing West, at all. I think it will be a competitive game, in fact I know it will. Just as I said abou Waverly and it was 13-7 half. This is SOC 2 football..come ready to play.

[Izladoom]

yeah i dont think anyone is bashing west at all. there has been very little actual discussion about the actual game. i think its going to be a very hard fought game. two running teams but to very different styles of teams. the difference is going to be valleys line. this is the one area where i think they are better than last years team in.

[coop]

yeah i dont think anyone is bashing west at all. there has been very little actual discussion about the actual game. i think its going to be a very hard fought game. two running teams but to very different styles of teams. the difference is going to be valleys line. this is the one area where i think they are better than last years team in.

I agree with that, I know one of the guys from Waverly said that we had the best line they had seen all year, we shall soon see as West is always tough up front.

[noles_fan]

Spamony is right. This site was good until Valley had that team last year. Now every fan in Lucasville with a computer gets on here chest thumping all year, while crying when others don't view valley in the same light.

As for the schedule its true. For whatever reason. Your defense doesn't get tested during the season. Valley should have won the region last year. But you had a huge lead, scored 48 points and lost to the same team that scored 14 on West the week before. That shouldn't happen.

Not "EVERY" Vally fan!!! I am proud of Valley and my boys and love High school football!! lets remember it is Highschool football and regardless of school. All the kids put A LOT of time and effort (not to mention the parents) into doing their best.
I enjoy reading all the banter back and forth but we must be careful not to "generalize" or to assume that one fan feels is what "every" fan feels. I am not originally from this area and played much further up north. We had rivals but I have never seen anything like the pride that individuals have in their programs here! It creates A Lot of excitement but sometimes to a fault.

This may be one of the best post I've read on here in a long time. You hit the nail on the head with your comment about pride inour programs down here. I've seen arguements break out at family get togethers. Heck i've even been involved in a couple myself. I'm not sure things will ever change in this part of the state and I'm not sure if I would ever want them to either. It's what makes Southern Ohio football so special. Nothing like hearing a young kid say they would never play for another school!

[noles_fan]

If West is going to win this game we need to throw on non-passing downs to keep their defense off balance. Back the safties up 8 yards off the ball is entirely to close. Play good contain with our ends and let the LB make plays in the middle. And for the love of god stop making silly mistakes. It is week 7 you should not still be jumping off sides!!! I think West has a legitimate shot at winning this game. They will need to play mistake free football for 4 quarters. Valley is very opportunistic.

[Westfan]

If West is going to win this game we need to throw on non-passing downs to keep their defense off balance. Back the safties up 8 yards off the ball is entirely to close. Play good contain with our ends and let the LB make plays in the middle. And for the love of god stop making silly mistakes. It is week 7 you should not still be jumping off sides!!! I think West has a legitimate shot at winning this game. They will need to play mistake free football for 4 quarters. Valley is very opportunistic.

Exactly. The only way this team wins is to play aggressive and be aggressive with our playcalling.

Both safeties playing so close has confused me for years. The strong I can understand, but one false step by your free and he's burned. It's alot easier to go forward than backwords.

[SPAMONY]

Valley 20
West 6

I was a little shocked that West played Minford tough after getting manhandled up front by Fairland. I am hearing that the linemen that returned from injury against Minford made a BIG difference for West. I didn't see the game but heard it from a reliable source. Line play is key.... can any West posters comment on how much of a difference they made at minford ie what do you yhink their record would be had they been healthy....

[crab_apple4]

Coach Rolfe does call from the field, but I know coaches in the press box radio down to him. There are positives and negatives about each situation, its just a matter of how well it works for each coach or team. I'm also pretty sure that Coach Rolfe calls the entire offensive game. There's no doubt that Coach Crabtree would have the final say on certain situations, but Rolfe does the play calling.

As for the rest of this thread... There are a ton of uninformed people out there that basically can make up whatever they want and claim its the truth because they believe it.

[Westfan]

Spamony I don't know the exact number, but from the fairland game to minford we have a different quarterback, tailback, tailback, center, and guard(both before Jessie came back. Defensive changes are both linebackers, defensive end, defensive tackle, and corner. We started three seniors on defense and four on offense.

Everything is speculation. But the team fielded Friday would not loose to either fairland or Portsmouth. But that's just water under the bridge at this point. I think we would have had somewhat of a rebuilding year next year had this one went according to plan. Now with all the youth on the field, alot of guys going one way, we should be good next year.

[Westfan]

Coach Rolfe does call from the field, but I know coaches in the press box radio down to him. There are positives and negatives about each situation, its just a matter of how well it works for each coach or team. I'm also pretty sure that Coach Rolfe calls the entire offensive game. There's no doubt that Coach Crabtree would have the final say on certain situations, but Rolfe does the play calling.

As for the rest of this thread... There are a ton of uninformed people out there that basically can make up whatever they want and claim its the truth because they believe it.

It's surprising because most OC's like to be up where they can see instead of relying on feedback from others. The best playoff run West ever had was when Sammons went upstairs to call the plays.

Whatever their doing, it works. I think coach T is passing some of the playcalling duties to others and that's a good thing. You can't do it all yourself, no one can. Trying to manage down and distance, personnel, and then get a play out there in a few seconds is too much. You can see and think so much better in the pressbox, than you can with all the noise and confusion of a sideline. Better/quicker choices will be made.

[Amarranavajas]

I hope NY gets to play Valley in the playoffs.

[crab_apple4]

Coach Rolfe does call from the field, but I know coaches in the press box radio down to him. There are positives and negatives about each situation, its just a matter of how well it works for each coach or team. I'm also pretty sure that Coach Rolfe calls the entire offensive game. There's no doubt that Coach Crabtree would have the final say on certain situations, but Rolfe does the play calling.

As for the rest of this thread... There are a ton of uninformed people out there that basically can make up whatever they want and claim its the truth because they believe it.

It's surprising because most OC's like to be up where they can see instead of relying on feedback from others. The best playoff run West ever had was when Sammons went upstairs to call the plays.

Whatever their doing, it works. I think coach T is passing some of the playcalling duties to others and that's a good thing. You can't do it all yourself, no one can. Trying to manage down and distance, personnel, and then get a play out there in a few seconds is too much. You can see and think so much better in the pressbox, than you can with all the noise and confusion of a sideline. Better/quicker choices will be made.

I agree with some/most of that, but there are also some negatives. The ability to coach up a player on a specific play and interact with them on what they are reading. I think Coach Rolfe call from up to for a while but went back to the sidelines. You see it in the NFL and in college, some guys prefer being on the field.

[NewEra]

I hope NY gets to play Valley in the playoffs.

I don't see NY beating Athens, which only leaves a 7% shot at the playoffs.

[Amarranavajas]

I hope NY gets to play Valley in the playoffs.

I don't see NY beating Athens, which only leaves a 7% shot at the playoffs.

The odds are against you on that prediction.