Will the Browns trade Quinn?

[PirateFan_2010]

NCF, What has ND done since Quinn left?. I have never said he was John Elway but you don't trade a 1st round pick without giving him a chance. I know you hate ND(congrats) and because of that you will never give Quinn a chance. Now let's be honest, do you honestly think that Derek Anderson can survive in a town that hates him?. Two of the best QB's the Browns ever had were Kosar and Sipe, they did not have the strongest arm but both wanted to be a Brown and were smart, the same goes on both fronts with Quinn.

I believe Notre Dame has gone to and won a bowl game since the human clipboard left.

LOL omg you can't be serious, they won the HAWAII BOWL, lol that' s the biggest joke ever.... that's comical for you to say.

[JChipwood]

^^^Nice!!

I hate ND too but am willing to let Quinn make or break on the field. This may not be the year because they have new recievers too break in. The kid from Georgia has alot of potential and Robiskee could be solid as a possesion guy. Braylon has a bad year and everyone wants his head. He is by far the one guy that can stretch defenses and has unlimited athletic ability. (btw I hate UM also)I like what they did as far as quantity. They picked up 2 starters as a result of the trade off for the fifth pick. LB from USC (yep not too fonf of them either) could be the sleeper of the draft and the DL from Hawaii will be solid in a couple years. They needed numbers not one or two A guys. They looked like the football brand of the Bad News Bears last year defensively and tackled like the womens league on FSP. The offense, if healthy, is not the biggest issue. No tds last whatever games is not indicative of the talent they still have on O, what was consistantly poor all year was the D.

[WitnessProtection]

Why are Browns fans so hot to unload Anderson and/or Quinn?
Anderson led the team to the playoffs in '07 and is pretty good when he gets blocking.
Quinn has played a grand total of 4 games.
I think you guys need to chill out and give the new regime a chance to turn it around.

[05buckeye]

well with the browns inviting harrell to camp this weekend i look for the browns to unload ratliff and keep quinn and anderson and maybe put anderson on the trading block next week.

[WitnessProtection]

Youre' probably right, 05buckeye.
As a Tampa Bay fan, I wouldn't mind having Anderson in red & pewter next season. He's better than anybody on my team's roster right now.

[dazed&confused]

The real problem with Anderson and Quinn is the coaches are obviously not sold on either of them. Why else would you bring in a project (Ratliff) and a free agent gunner rookie. They want to shuffle the deck and see which cards look the best. Besides, there still isn't a burning market for any of the QBs just yet. IMO, the Browns will hold the cards they have and wait until attrition and/or desperation on the part of teams who experience injuries early on to make a move. Suppose the Giants go into training camp and come to the conclusion they don't have the answer to losing Burress? Bang, a trade will be worked out with the Browns for Edwards where he is maybe a sign-and-trade for that first round pick the Browns want. Then, (and God knows I'm not advocating it happening, just using it as an example) Warner goes down for the year with an injury. Anderson to the Cardinals. The Browns must wait it out now and be the recipient of circumstances.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

I CANNOT BELIEVE GRAHAM HERRELL DID NOT EVEN GET DRAFTED , WE'LL TAKE HIM ALL DAY LONG IN CINCY.

[bigtimehitter]

^^^why are you so surprised? harrell is nothing but a system QB, he wont mke it in the nfl. He'll struggle to even make a roster spot....

[Orange and Brown]

^^^why are you so surprised? harrell is nothing but a system QB, he wont mke it in the nfl. He'll struggle to even make a roster spot....

In that case Colt MCoy and Sam Bradford won't make it either.

[boogerred]

^^^why are you so surprised? harrell is nothing but a system QB, he wont mke it in the nfl. He'll struggle to even make a roster spot....

A system quarterback? Meaning that he only had success because the system he was in?
Well, I guess most quarterback are system quarterbacks. I don't reckon Peyton Manning would have been much of a split-back veer QB.

[Orange and Brown]

Today almost all Qb's are considered "system" QB's.
I agree that Harell will have some trouble finding his way in the NFL, but he will be fine if he is patient. To say that a guy won't make it because he played in a system that is different from the pro game is well, stupid. The NFL although slowly does adapt to the type of QB's comming out of collage.

I can remember when a QB was expected to stand in the pocket and either make the throw or take a sack. Scrambling QB's were tabboo. Now pocket QB's are fading into the past. The NFL has already started to change there game a little with the addition of the Wildcat offense and over the next few years it will add even more spread type O's into the game.

NCAA football is a testing ground for the NFL and all it takes is one coach to try something and as long as it works the rest of the leauge will start doing it.

[WitnessProtection]

I was a little bit surprised that Graham Harrell went undrafted.
The NFL scouting report on him highlights a couple of big negatives: less-than-NFL level arm strength and poor footwork under center.
Strengths include good accuracy, good timing and the ability to read defenses quickly.
He's got decent size, 6-3, 205.

[bigtimehitter]

Today almost all Qb's are considered "system" QB's.
I agree that Harell will have some trouble finding his way in the NFL, but he will be fine if he is patient. To say that a guy won't make it because he played in a system that is different from the pro game is well, stupid. The NFL although slowly does adapt to the type of QB's comming out of collage.

I can remember when a QB was expected to stand in the pocket and either make the throw or take a sack. Scrambling QB's were tabboo. Now pocket QB's are fading into the past. The NFL has already started to change there game a little with the addition of the Wildcat offense and over the next few years it will add even more spread type O's into the game.

NCAA football is a testing ground for the NFL and all it takes is one coach to try something and as long as it works the rest of the leauge will start doing it.

The bottom line is, he wont make it in the nfl ,and for you to think he will is,well, stupid. ITS NOT JUST THE FACT THAT HE IS IN THAT STAT INFLATIING SYSYTEM, HE DOESNT HAVE THE SKILLS TO MAKE IT. He has a funky,slow release and he doesnt have the arm strength. And yea i know your gonna throw out example of guys that have made it in the NFL with a weak arm ie Chad Pennington, or a funky release ie Phillip Rivers or guys that have made it in the NFL that played in a QB friendly system in college like Drew Brees or someone else. So Harrell has had big stats so he will make it in the NFL? Just like Kliff Kingsbury, Sony Cumbie, Cody Hodges, BJ Symons, Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer all had great careers right?
And you say the NFL has changed over the years to a more scrambling and elusive QB's and the NFL is bringin in the wildcat, so if the game is changing more and more everyday to a more scrambling QB ,how does that increase his chances, but yea your right Harrel is just the man all coaches want to come in and run the wildcat offense

[Orange and Brown]

Today almost all Qb's are considered "system" QB's.
I agree that Harell will have some trouble finding his way in the NFL, but he will be fine if he is patient. To say that a guy won't make it because he played in a system that is different from the pro game is well, stupid. The NFL although slowly does adapt to the type of QB's comming out of collage.

I can remember when a QB was expected to stand in the pocket and either make the throw or take a sack. Scrambling QB's were tabboo. Now pocket QB's are fading into the past. The NFL has already started to change there game a little with the addition of the Wildcat offense and over the next few years it will add even more spread type O's into the game.

NCAA football is a testing ground for the NFL and all it takes is one coach to try something and as long as it works the rest of the leauge will start doing it.

The bottom line is, he wont make it in the nfl ,and for you to think he will is,well, stupid. ITS NOT JUST THE FACT THAT HE IS IN THAT STAT INFLATIING SYSYTEM, HE DOESNT HAVE THE SKILLS TO MAKE IT. He has a funky,slow release and he doesnt have the arm strength. And yea i know your gonna throw out example of guys that have made it in the NFL with a weak arm ie Chad Pennington, or a funky release ie Phillip Rivers or guys that have made it in the NFL that played in a QB friendly system in college like Drew Brees or someone else. So Harrell has had big stats so he will make it in the NFL? Just like Kliff Kingsbury, Sony Cumbie, Cody Hodges, BJ Symons, Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer all had great careers right?
And you say the NFL has changed over the years to a more scrambling and elusive QB's and the NFL is bringin in the wildcat, so if the game is changing more and more everyday to a more scrambling QB ,how does that increase his chances, but yea your right Harrel is just the man all coaches want to come in and run the wildcat offense

I never said Harell would be good in the Wildcat.,but you did prove my point though!!!
Thanks.
I am not saying that he will be in the hall of fame. I am saying that if he is patient then he will have a chance to prove himself. He may end up being a career back up but thats better than not being in the league. There have been plenty of QB's who were not supposed to be good NFL QB's. There also have been many who were busts. In the end we won't know until he has a chance to show us.

[dazed&confused]

Why doesn't the NFL start a developmental league over here like the old NFL Europe? Have it as a spring football league wrapping up on July 4 weekend with a championship. Start it up immediately after the draft so you can use undrafted players. Set an age limit both low and high so you don't rehab or recycle older players. Locate the teams regionally and use mid-major college football fields so these schools can share in the gate. Root for a team instead of a city and revolve the gamesites. Play on weeknights and put the games on NFL Network. Guys like Harrell can still be "on loan" from the teams but get a chance to develop and play the professional game. The league would hire coaches from a pool of qualified candidates, including current assistants if they want to participate so you can groom the minority coaches the NFL wants to be interviewed for openings (Rooney Rule). And give us some legitimate football we can watch in the spring. Over here!

[WitnessProtection]

The United Football League is kicking off this fall with teams in Hartford, Conn.; Orlando; Las Vegas; Los Angeles; New York; Sacramento; and San Francisco.
They plan to play games on Thursday and Friday nights. TV coverage on VERSUS.
The season begins in October with the championship game set for Thanksgiving weekend.
Some former NFL front office and team execs are the brains behind it.

[dazed&confused]

Won't work. The NFL will kill it. It needs to be in the Spring not competing against the big boys and college football. And it needs to have the sanction of the NFL so it has deep pockets and viable players. By the way, getting back to the topic of the thread, The Plain Dealer reports the Browns turned down two different offers of first-round picks to trade Quinn. I believe the reason is they really want to look at Quinn or are afraid of trading such a popular player and having him do well somewhere else. I also believe there isn't much of a market for Anderson or they are waiting for other team's QBs to go down in training camp to raise the interest level in Anderson. Either way, I'd say Quinn is our starter now regardless of any QB competition.

[buckeyeguy]

i hope not

[dazed&confused]

I'd like to see them give him a legitimate shot. But I'll tell you what....I'd give our next three 1st round picks for another Brian Sipe right now.

[BBallin fool]

trade him!!!Hell they can't win as the Browns.lol so now there the Cleveland Brown Jets.