Michigan Football

[ACCBiggz]

I will not shut up untill Michigan gets rid of the worst coach in the history of UM football.

It's actually not Rodriguez that's the problem. It's Greg Robinson. Period. This is the first year where we are seeing some of Rodriguez' recruits on the field and we see how the offense is producing and how they are getting accustomed to the zone read. The first year Rich came in he was brought in late and didn't have time to recruit his "type" of kids. Now we are seeing the offense starting to become dynamic with the right kind of kids in his system.

The defense however, is just horrific. They need to make a change in the off-season.

[Peake]

I honestly don't think it is Robinson. Robinson can only work with what he has. My biggest problem with Rich Rod is attrition. He has lost somewhere in the ball park of 20+ kids in his 3 years, and when Rich came in he already had a top 10 class to build on. It is not like he came in to nothing. Mike Martin, Odoms, Roundtree, Shaw, Terrance Robinson, Koger, JT Floyd, Kovacks, Van Bergan, Demens, all came from his first class. It wasn't a great offensive class but it was good enough.

Defensive recruiting has been imo average. Rich goes after kids who are tweeners, we recruited a lot of kids that we will have to wait on because they were recruited to play a position they are not ready for. It will take at least two years of development. Problem is we need bodies right now, we can't wait for it to develop.

[Peake]

Thank you for your 2nd grade response.

[ACCBiggz]

when Rich came in he already had a top 10 class to build on. It is not like he came in to nothing.

That's all well and good on paper, but there are a few problems. The biggest reason is what I was mentioning above... majority simply didn't fit his system. College football is a system sport. It's why certain coaches go after certain types of athletes and even if they get a talented player - if they don't fit into that system they don't pan out. Rich Rod's system compared to Carr's is night and day.

As for defensive recruiting, sure it could be better, but that falls on the recruiters and and coaching staff so he does share the blame (and ultimate blame as head coach). But regardless, it has been obvious for YEARS that Greg Robinson is not good and it continues to show. If they had kept Ron English (who did a magnificent job, imo) or hired someone reasonable I think Michigan today would have a solid defense if not one of the best.... instead they give up massive amounts of yards and subsequently points to inferior competition.

And I'll relate it to my team's experience. I'm a Florida State fan. After Mark Richt left for Georgia Jeff Bowden took over with a talented offense... and completely ruined it with his style. He was a terrible offensive coordinator that failed to produce in spite of having a lot of talent. The losses came and effected recruiting and saw a decline in premiere talent. Just because you inherit talent doesn't ensure success if you cannot coach. I feel it's the same for Greg Robinson. He has not improved the defense in his time there. And if Ron English's luck continues at Eastern Michigan (he should have never taken that pitiful job) he may be available in the off-season to return to the Maize and Blue... >_>, lol.

[seofan_via_dublin]

I'm picking Indiana this week.

[bigtimehitter]

UM gets the win, but I'm taking Indiana and the 11 points. This is gonna be a shootout. Ben Chappell has almost 900 yards and no picks, completing 72% of his passes. Denard is leading the nation in rushing and completing 70% of his passes. Add that up with two teams that have zero defense = ALOT OF POINTS :122245

[Peake]

The same Ron English defense that lost to Appy State? English hates Rich, that will never happen.

Great coaches adjust scheme to players. Key example----Jim Tressel

Look at the two QB's who left----Mallett and Threet, both of whom who will be NFL QB's. He couldn't adjust his scheme to fit his players.

I still don't think Robinson stinks. He did ok at Texas as DC, good enough to make it to the NFL.

[boilermaker]

Surprise no DEFENSE again against Indiana .......Indiana???? 35 point???? Sad for true Wolverine fans !

RR MUST GO!!!!!!!

[X8XOHIOLEGENDX7X]

Yea michigan is in trouble in the big 10 IMO.

[Just_A_Fan]

You dont have a great D, all that matters ne ways is that your score more than your oppenent and Michigan is doing just that. Do I personaly like it no, but if they keep winning in the end thats all that matters.

[Peake]

Boilermaker....I agree our D is awful. At this point we know what we are, so you making the same comment every week about the same thing is getting old.

The good news while you are calling for Rich Rod's head, is we are 5-0. I said from the beginning of the season we would go 7-5 and nothing has happened to make me change my mind. I actually think if some things work out we could actually get to 8-9 wins. At this point I think we go on the road and beat Penn State, but we shall see.

I look at it like this, we are on the 1 yard line and then fumble. If we score there and go up 21-7 I think Indiana gets a little desperate, but it didn't happen. If you watched the game Michigan left 3 touchdowns on the field again. They have to stop doing that. This defense is not good enough to keep winning shootouts, the offense has to give more cushion.

Denard Robinson----He is special. I am talking special like Mike Vick special. If he gets to the secondary on anyone they are not going to catch him. He is making throws a first year QB shouldn't. He is a special player.

Next week is The Game for Michigan. Everything they have worked for this offseason has to be put into this one game. This is the game imo that will save or be the end of Rich Rod. You can't lose to your in-state rival 3 straight years and keep your job.

Right now we are 5-0. Enjoy it!!!!!! We are what we are at this point. Everyone keeps saying we can't just outscore people, so far that is what we have done.

[seofan_via_dublin]

5-0 going into their game with Michigan State.

If they win that game, and can win two of three against Iowa, Wisconsin, and PSU,
then RR will keep his job, possibly be coach of the year, and Robinson will win the Heisman.

[Just_A_Fan]

I agree the is Denards to lose...i agree with Peake Michigan cant lose to Michigan St. but if michigan wins 7 games and one of those wins is against OSU that would keep RR's job.

[boilermaker]

peak just dont read my post , because I will never support RR he is a black eye to the University of Michigan. He can never change that. However I will always support the kids at Michigan.

[Just_A_Fan]

You along with alot of people would jump on RR train IF the man would win a national title. I don't care who coaches the team as long as Michigan wins come Saturdays. I liked Carr but it was his time to go, he had ALOT of talent but just couldn't put it all together near the end of his career.

[boilermaker]

Im not saying it wasnt time for a new coach , im just saying not RR he is not loyal and a liar . He has put sanctions on a once clean program and I will never be on his banwagon. If they do win a national championship( which I doubt they will with RR) I will be happy for the kids ,and critical of RR.

[noreply66]

looks like Michigan is off to the same start they had last year before the roof fell in

[Peake]

Actually Michigan started 4-0 last year before it all went south. I really don't expect that to happen again. The offense is far better this season then last, and we all know the defense is awful, but the good news is the conference is nowhere near as strong as we all thought it would be. Penn State is average, Wisconsin is just abover average, Iowa is no longer a top 10 team, Purdue is awful, Illinois will go in the tank at some point. There is one elite team in the big ten and the rest are all mid pack teams. Only way Michigan slumps is if Denard gets knocked out for the season. This offense is too good and will win games by simply out scoring people.

[Orange and Brown]

There is enough film on Robinson that teams are gonna be able to SLOW him down a little. The kid can play. He is a human highlight.

[Peake]

Why is Rich Rod not loyal and a liar? Because he left WVU? Who cares, he took a better job. If someone gave anyone here more money and produced a traditional better product then we would all leave to. The only thing Rich Rod did wrong was call TP on a WVU phone, and he paid for it in the media. There have been no sanctions to be factual by the ncaa yet. UM placed sanctions of themself and many beieve that will be good enough for the NCAA. With the sanctions on USC and the harsh sanctions that will come down on UNC, our problems are pedestrain compared to them.

I disagree on Robinson. I hear every week how everyone will be concentrating on slowing him down and they will figure out how to do it. Well we are 5 games in and not a single team has figured it out. The kid is Vick special, which is pretty high praise considering all three hosts on gameday say he is the best player they have ever seen at the college level.

The defense will cost this team a game they should not lose, I have no doubts about that.

Like I said, and Boiler this should make you happy, Rich Rod is coacing for his job this game. He wins-he stays. If he losses then he is gone no questions.