Top 5 Chillicothe B-ball Players of all time

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bronc21 wrote:im almost positive the record is 44 points


I've got the Gazette from the day after he went off. My mom sent it to me here in LA.

I'll see if I can find it.


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bronc and hitch...i agree with both of you. i remember when they replayed the grove city game where humpty had 39 Dan Ramey was stating the record at 44 points and speculating whether humpty would break it that night.


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Dshanton3 wrote:bronc and hitch...i agree with both of you. i remember when they replayed the grove city game where humpty had 39 Dan Ramey was stating the record at 44 points and speculating whether humpty would break it that night.


You all are probably right. I got a phone call from Eric this weekend and he doesn't think he broke any record, nor did he think he scored that many points. He thought it was in the high 30's. I don't know where I came up with so many more.

Fault my memory and my delusions of greatness for my nephew...he was flattered to even be mentioned though.

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hitch- graves graduated i think in 2000(i may be wrong here). i remember the game, it was an away game i know for sure. maybe i'm just remembering the score wrong then. but i could've swore that the scoreboard thing said that he had 51 points, but then again we were in Hilliard and playing in the OCC still, so who knows. we'll just settle on that he didn't score that many and my memory is not what it used to be :lol: :lol:


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I am glad it is not just me whose memory tends to go a bit. I can't remember to take my medicine, so I can remember.

Any any event the Graves kid did light it up and was a scorer. It also tells you how tough it is to go for over 40 in a high school game. You have to be on fire and getting a whole lot of looks. In the OCC, the defense and the pace of the game alone doesn't allow for a lot of big individual scoring games.

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The single game mark is 42 points.

42 - Phil Brown vs Marietta in 1956 and Bill Schmeider in 2002 vs (I can't remember. It was at Hatton Gym.)
41 - Wayne Stevens vs Dover in 1953
39 - Humpty Hitchens vs Grove City in 2006
38 - Neil Johnston vs Wilmington 1946
36 - Gordon Mickey vs Lancaster 1958
35 - Steve Bayless vs Miami Trace in 1986 and Eric Graves vs Portsmouth in 2000

Blu_n_Whyt, aka Dan Ramey (with the assistance of the late "Great One" Dick Routt) and sgraves.
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Blu_n_Whyt wrote:The single game mark is 42 points.

42 - Phil Brown vs Marietta in 1956 and Bill Schmeider in 2002 vs (I can't remember. It was at Hatton Gym.)
41 - Wayne Stevens vs Dover in 1953
39 - Humpty Hitchens vs Grove City in 2006
38 - Neil Johnston vs Wilmington 1946
36 - Gordon Mickey vs Lancaster 1958
35 - Steve Bayless vs Miami Trace in 1986

Blu_n_Whyt, aka Dan Ramey (with the assistance of the late "Great One" Dick Routt).


I found the old newspaper clipping here in my office. Eric Graves scored 35 against Portsmouth on Jan 8, 2000. He shot 13/14 from the floor.

Interestingly enough, Wayne Stevens and Eric Graves are 2nd or 3rd cousins. My guess is that some combination of Hitchens, Mickey and/or Bayless are related as well. It's Chillicothe!

Now, I'm going to have to figure out why I was so certain Eric scored more....35...53? Had he scored 18, I might have thought he scored 81!

I think someone's point about life in the OCC is on target. It was very "Big 10", no easy buckets. When I was there, twice Lancaster (I think...who was not in the OCC) went in to that blasted "four corners" offense and basically held the ball all game. The halftime score was like 4-2 and we lost the game. I'm still angry about it...and I'm sure it really undermined the scoring average of players at CHS.

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Thanks for the info on Eric. I knew he had a handful of good games, but didn't have documentation.
I'll add him to the list.


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sgraves wrote:
Blu_n_Whyt wrote:The single game mark is 42 points.

42 - Phil Brown vs Marietta in 1956 and Bill Schmeider in 2002 vs (I can't remember. It was at Hatton Gym.)
41 - Wayne Stevens vs Dover in 1953
39 - Humpty Hitchens vs Grove City in 2006
38 - Neil Johnston vs Wilmington 1946
36 - Gordon Mickey vs Lancaster 1958
35 - Steve Bayless vs Miami Trace in 1986

Blu_n_Whyt, aka Dan Ramey (with the assistance of the late "Great One" Dick Routt).


I found the old newspaper clipping here in my office. Eric Graves scored 35 against Portsmouth on Jan 8, 2000. He shot 13/14 from the floor.

Interestingly enough, Wayne Stevens and Eric Graves are 2nd or 3rd cousins. My guess is that some combination of Hitchens, Mickey and/or Bayless are related as well. It's Chillicothe!

Now, I'm going to have to figure out why I was so certain Eric scored more....35...53? Had he scored 18, I might have thought he scored 81!

I think someone's point about life in the OCC is on target. It was very "Big 10", no easy buckets. When I was there, twice Lancaster (I think...who was not in the OCC) went in to that blasted "four corners" offense and basically held the ball all game. The halftime score was like 4-2 and we lost the game. I'm still angry about it...and I'm sure it really undermined the scoring average of players at CHS.

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sgraves,

I remember the 4-2 game like it was yesterday. I played (or rather stood) in that slugfest. They were not the only team to play that way, but that was the worst example of it. Yet, they won the game. Smart strategy????

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hitch, how could you stand by and let that happen? am i wrong in thinking that there is no way a team could have done that to this years cavs team? we would make them do something, even if it meant giving them a score by over-pressuring them. Coach just let you stand there, no trapping, no pressing?


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i agree with that list

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Dshanton3 wrote:hitch, how could you stand by and let that happen? am i wrong in thinking that there is no way a team could have done that to this years cavs team? we would make them do something, even if it meant giving them a score by over-pressuring them. Coach just let you stand there, no trapping, no pressing?


dj3,

believe me, it was probably the toughest thing I ever went through as a player. However, a coaches decision is a coaches decision. I am clearly biased but statistically after Coach Tom Cuppett and before Coach Gary Kellough, we have went through some very lean times. That includes , ability to get kids to play, some lean talent years, decision making by coaches and players, but most of all, IMO, the ability to understand the kids you have and play through them versus playing through a system all the time. We stood in a zone the whole 1st half and simply did nothing. They held the ball and we stood. We were not losing so we did not have to come out and defend. At half time the decision was made to continue to stay back in a zone and not trap.

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dj3,

believe me, it was probably the toughest thing I ever went through as a player. However, a coaches decision is a coaches decision. I am clearly biased but statistically after Coach Tom Cuppett and before Coach Gary Kellough, we have went through some very lean times. That includes , ability to get kids to play, some lean talent years, decision making by coaches and players, but most of all, IMO, the ability to understand the kids you have and play through them versus playing through a system all the time. We stood in a zone the whole 1st half and simply did nothing. They held the ball and we stood. We were not losing so we did not have to come out and defend. At half time the decision was made to continue to stay back in a zone and not trap.

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Any idea how long coach Cooper remained at CHS? He was the hot-shot coach they brought in from Florida apparently to get Ronnie, Joey, Stevie, Engel and Lil' Greg to win a championship. They were ranked in the top 5 in the state in 1983-84, but fell in the tournament to some shaggy-haired one-man wrecking crew from Wintersville. He came in after Greer, but must have left soon after I graduated. He was the coach in at least 2 of those awful games of "Lancaster Hold 'em".


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Coach Don Cooper was at CHS just one season.
Coach Harold Bates followed for the next three seasons.
Then came Napoleon Cross for three seasons and Joe B. Stewart for the next 9 and Jeff Hobbs for five before the return of Coach Bates for another season.
In a review of winning percentages, tops in the history for Chillicothe:
Tom Cuppett - 77% 1969-81 (11 seasons) 175-52
Don Gatchell - 76.1% 1954-57 (3 seasons) 48-15
Gary Kellough - 75.6% 2005-08 (3 seasons to present) 56-18
Dick Dolan - 71.8% 1957-62 (5 seasons) 79-31
Don Cooper - 70.8% 1983-84 (1 seasons) 17-7
Ed Alexinas - 61.7% 1945-54 (9 seasons) 116-72
Earl Young - 61.6% 1923-45 (22 seasons) 223-139
Howard Corky Miller - 58% 1962-69 (7 seasons) 76-55


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^^^^

Proves my case about the time period between Cuppett and Kellough. None of the coaches made this winning percentage list. I know some will say the OCC, but I say we could have done better. Unfortunately, this topic is about Top 5 ball-players, but many from the last 20 plus years won't get much play because of the team performance.

This team deserves to be inducted immediately intothe CHS Hall of Fame. I believe last years squad could very easily be discussed at that level as well.

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hey, uncle tbird, this is eric. I had 35 that night agaist portsmouth at chilli. I missed 2 shots that night, one from the floor and one from the foul line with 1 three pointer. Privledge to be mentioned with some of these guys.Thanks


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Wasnt Dale Thompson pretty good? Someone told me he might have been ross county player of the year, maybe?


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