Peebles Talent

[shljunkie]

I agree bucknut, most people aren't going to make their living playing basketball so get the education.
As I said, its usually not about the kids.

[hoopin]

If we're talking strictly exposure than Mason Co. is one of the top schools in the whole state of KY, winning the state championship last year and having a few big-time D1 recruits come through in the past several years. Year after year they're ranked highly in the state and play in a strong region, traveling to L'ville, Lex, and out of state to Hawaii, Fla, etc.

Like I stated before, Trevor had the opportunity to play alongside Miller and was seen by the college coaches that came to recruit him, plus the recruiters who came to watch Middleton who committed to G'town early in his h.s. career...Traveling around, playing a tough schedule, having talented teammates, and playing where coaches and media will see you, all these things lead to exposure. I know that Air Force Academy as well as a few other D1 schools were strongly pursuing him last year. I guess the opportunity to play for free at a top-notch NAIA school was too tempting to pass up? I sure would've jumped at the chance.

I guess what I'm saying is that PHS would've been a monster had they been able to keep what they had! As the old quote goes "Que sera, sera (whatever will be, will be)!"

[YC08]

Junkie, It is obvious that you don't care what anyone thinks, kids, parents, coaches, me, as you say what you want, but wait a minute...maybe you do because on your next post you back peddle. Who knows? But I will continue to point out the negative under tones of the original post I referred to.
As far as me showing through??? I am someone who like you, 1000 posts ago, joined a forum to talk local high school basketball, but in my talk I am not going to belittle or speak negatively about anyone. This just happened to be a topic I knew a little bit about shortly after I joined so I posted.

Exactly Bucknut it is unbelievable what some people with post. And hoopin' you obviously agree with me as that is exactly what I was saying in my first post.
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[shljunkie]

Hmm... maybe either you didn't know as much as you thought you did or you just can't handle it that other people have opinions different than yours. Re-read if you wish: I have not posted anything that belittles a kid nor will I ever do that. As you said, we are all on here to talk basketball. Understand that in doing that, there will obviously be times people will agree with you and times they wont; it wouldn't be all that interesting if we didn't. Don't get so defensive and ready to judge just because someone doesn't see things the way you do.

[YC08]

I'm not so sure they are getting any more "exposure" than they would've got at Peebles. Yes, Mason County won a Ky state tourney but I don't see where it did older Setty any favors? I have heard, but don't know for sure, that he is now at Maysville Community College?

Again you "try" to come out smelling like a rose but what I read from this is that you are gloating/happy that he ended up at a community college. Am I wrong?

PS (and I don't mean post script) what do you mean when you keep saying it's usually not about the kids. Are you mad at the other parents?

[shljunkie]

I really thought I was done with this topic but I have to respond, yes yC you are dead wrong. I wish nothing but the best for all kids, esp ones from our community and hope to see them do well at whatever path they choose. I'd have loved it if they had all stayed here but certainly don't begrudge them, that is just part of life.
I was only trying to express my opinion that leaving small schools doesn't always mean bigger offers. I see the potential for more exposure but even at that, it doesn't always translate into better opportunities. You have to be very very very very good to make it big, it just doesn't happen that often.
No I am not mad at anyones parents in particular at all. I'm just saying, a lot of times when decisions are made, its' not always about what is really best for the kids. A lot of times parents are mad at other parents, mad at the coaches, mad at the administration, jealous of other kids, the list goes on, and the kids don't have issues at all and so people react based on their own personal issues, not with their kids best interest at heart. In my job/position I've seen it too many times to count. I'll not debate that with you, it is what it is, unfortunately.

[YC08]

And I guess my point or "opinion" is that the point you've made in these last few posts doesn't quite resemble the same point you were making in the beginning. The Setty boys did and are receiving exposure they would not have gotten if they stayed at Peebles, regardless of coach. And I would say when they moved in elementary school exposure was the furthest thing from anyone's mind. It is obvious that moving to MC was the best thing for these boys. Again I am just amazed and shocked by your community college "jab".

[shljunkie]

Yc this is very obviously very very personal for you so I'm not going to go any further. I know what I said and meant but you very obviously have some major issues here. Again, just a bit of advice for a new poster.....understand people aren't always going to agree with you and may even tell you something you didn't know (can't imagine that huh?) but that's part of it.

[YC08]

Junkie
This is not a major issue for me, I just know what I know and know what I read. Furthermore maybe you should follow your own advice since your the one always on here and always arguing with posters. Seems you can't stand it if people don't agree with you! (just a little advice from a new poster).

[shljunkie]

Nah, I don't care who agrees with me or doesn't, as I've said, that's what makes for good fun posting and bantering back and forth a little.
I know sometimes when it's personal it gets sticky and it's hard to see outside the box so I see where you're coming from.

[bucknut53]

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[BALLER1]

If those boys were still there, they would be looking at several Gold Balls and trips to Athens. However, getting them all to play together would be the key, no disrespect to any kid. All 4 of them are scorers, so which one is going to take the "Role Player" position? I think the Setty's were better off going to Mason County for the same reason that everyone else has stated, exposure! With their talent they would get looks at Peebles, but when you play at Mason County, which has been a powerhouse in Kentucky, more coaches are going to their games and looking at their players. With them producing Lofton and Miller of recent years, college scouts are keeping a close eye on the talent at MC. I also think they have became better ball players by playing in the MC program and system.

I thought that Justice would have transferred to MC last year to better his chances at playing D1. He would have got a lot of looks by colleges just coming to watch Miller, Setty and Middleton last year. With the way Miller attracted all the attention and his ability to pass, Setty on one wing and Justice on the other, they would have been even better! I respect him for staying at Peebles!

[job 2:10]

I need more popcorn.

[indians10]

The exposure issue is alot different than it was several years ago.With the use of forums like these,and the use of the internet,coaches,and the scouts know who can play and who cant.Coaches now have so much at there finger tips,compared to years ago.Individual stats,team scores,league standings,the top players in each league,can all be found right hear on this site.This is one of many that are online for coaches to find out whats going on around the state.An example of college coaches knowing what kind of talent is in the shl,being out in the sticks like we are,is when two girls from Eastern Brown were signed.One going to UC and the other going to Northern Ky.So maybe the exposure is there,no matter where you play.

[shljunkie]

Yeah, I think there aren't too many people out there who don't know Blake Justice's name. They find you if you're good enough to be found.

[hook em horns]

To the point that there is still a difference in playing at Peebles and Mason County. If State College is looking at two players whom the coaches feel are pretty equal in talent and ability and Player A plays for Moeller High and Player B plays for fill in the blank Southeast District Division III High, then State College will offer the kid from Moeller 9 out of 10 times because he has faced better competition in better basketball environments. Now this is an example of when two kids are very similar but if you can play they will find you.

[rooster]

Easy does it Rooster. Don't get too upset. Peebles has had some talent, there's no doubt about that, but there's not much point in wondering what could've been.

Not to argue the point but this thread was created to talk about what "could've been" If you're meaning hindsight is 20/20, than yes I agree with you. Can't change it!!! But we can give our opinions and talk about the talent Peebles lost when the Setty and Carroll boys moved and even speculate about what our season would look like had they stayed. Lots of us support these boys and have traveled to watch them play, just wish they were wearing a Peebles jersey.

[sparky]

if justice did transfer to mason county would he be getting as much attention as he is getting at peebles? at peebles he is the man, at mason county he would definitely have to share the spot light. is he better than the guards that mason county has now?

[hook em horns]

Not to argue the point but this thread was created to talk about what "could've been" .

Your correct rooster, my intention with starting the post was to discuss and make noted that the Peebles community has produced some great talent with this group of young men. Of course, we should be able to discuss what could have been as it makes for very interesting conversation.

[hook em horns]

Sparky, you pose a great question and one that will offer differing opinions I'm sure.

I'll give my opinion in that I feel he would get more attention playing at Mason County. I feel he is just a touch below Russ Middleton right now but would definitely start at two guard and average double figures, obviously not 22 or 23 ppg as he is now.