It wasn't McCleod or White that got it all started either. At least not on their own. It was Phil Howard. Period. Love him or hate him you have to admit that he is, more than likely, the only reason they even managed to keep playing basketball for four years of high school. You were there. You know the story. I am saying that Michael and Jeremy played their first two years and never won anything. Other than individual attention. I am a firm believer that basketball is a team effort. If there hadn't been a Vince and Bobbie and you and others, do you honestly think Michael and Jeremy with three other average players would have taken a team to the Regional finals? I personally do not. I am not slighting Michael and Jeremy. Under Phil's guidance and devotion (LOL!) they did a great job. I doubt Western will see the likes of Michael White's ball handling skills anytime soon. I don't think I'm alone in saying that Vince and Bobbie have accomplished more. Mick Whitt announced it at the last home game so he must have had some kind of similar feeling. The AD didn't force him to issue a retraction or anything so maybe she agrees. They know that since this is the only team in Western history who has won three back to back to back Sectionals, they have, as I stated in an earlier post that got you aggravated, " accomplished more than any other team in Western history". I guess you and I will just have to disagree. I'll still be your friend...
So, I have a problem with this, you call me out for saying I dont remember the names of the players who played with Mike and jeremy thier freshman/sophomore year....But you are the one being disrespectful towards them....during mike and jeremy's first 2 years they must have had below average players after I read what you posted since you said they wouldnt have reached the regional finals if it weren't for the 3 new comers...Are you saying that with what they had their first 2 years, the were no good, I mean I do see where you put they never won anything...
60ft6in., I get the feeling you think I am slamming you. I'm not. You did your job. But if you can say "it wasn't them, it was White and Mcleod" I guess I'm entitled to my opinion about Shanks and Smithson. Reread my last post about what all Vince and Bobbie had as team accomplishments and then you post for me what McCleod and White had to list as team accomplishments BEFORE Shanks and Smithson came along. Shanks and Smithson helped make White and McCleod be the players they were and I do think that McCleod and White were great. BUT I stand by my opinion.
So, I have a HUGE problem with this....I really need you to explain to me how Vince and Bobbie made Mike and Jeremy the players they were...You have that completley backwards....People double teamed Mike and Jeremy and that left Vince and Bobbie open....?????? That makes no sense to me....
You say I am being disrespectful towards my teammates....White and Mcleod were teammates also....I think I would be disrespectful towards my teammates if I were not being honest....