Division III Sectional Pairings

Ironman92 · Post by **Ironman92** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:12 pm

I don't know if it is possible to rig it this well but the SVC had 6 teams @ Waverly and none of them face each other in the first game????.....but of 5 SHL schools 4 of them face a league foe in their first game?....and the only one that doesn't is North Adams who got a horrible #7/#10 draw with Zane Trace and Portsmouth.

Piketon has an easier route out of the sectional than #2 NA....but the Burg is awaiting in the districts.

South Point has to face Rock Hill or Ironton to get out and #2 Burg gets Belpre...maybe

The Man on the Microphone · Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:19 pm

Ironman,

You know as well as I do that (insert sarcasm here) no one would ever rig a Sectional draw.

It kind of defeats the purpose of working your butt off during the season to only get reamed in the draw.

Championship · Post by **Championship** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:29 pm

someoverkill.....

wat are you trying to say sp didnt play any1 every1 we played with the exception of ironton st joe (15 pt win)...Hunt St Joe who we smashed twice....and south webster who we beat by nearly 40....also we played d2 northwest who is a 6 seed and beat them.....point is u cant say we played a ton of d4 teams we didnt we played 3 and one d2 as well as scrimmagin the #2 in our sectional wburg and hung right with them

I understand what your saying ironton is a strong 9 seed and rock hill could erupt at any point if they would just play together but the point is we are undefeated for a reason we've had close games that we've pulled out so how can u say we are undeserving of our seed bc thats wat it sounds like to me

someoverkill · Post by **someoverkill** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:41 pm

championship, you know Wheelersburg got the shaft in this draw. They are heads and shoulders above the rest. South Point has had a good season, but come on. I don't think Rock hill or Ironton is complaining. I would say either one would much rather face South Point than Wheelersburg. There will be alot of pressure on the Pointers. It has been a long time since the #1 seed has failed to make it out of the sectional.

tubby · Post by **tubby** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:29 pm

How can u say that SP hasn't played anyone? Look at the OVC :!:

Can anyone post the rankings of these teams? SP and Peake have both overachieved, probably even Coal Grove. I think every team except RV has a winning record, and RV is capable of upsets. If SP goes through the OVC with just one loss I would still seed them higher than Burg. Sorry but the OVC is tougher than the SOC this year. And IMO Ironton and Rock Hill are better than Belpre. And RV is better than N-York. The OVC actually had the numbers this year to put it to people, and yet still gets screwed.

Mad-Dogg · Post by **Mad-Dogg** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:30 pm

someoverkill wrote:championship, you know Wheelersburg got the shaft in this draw. They are heads and shoulders above the rest. South Point has had a good season, but come on. I don't think Rock hill or Ironton is complaining. I would say either one would much rather face South Point than Wheelersburg. There will be alot of pressure on the Pointers. It has been a long time since the #1 seed has failed to make it out of the sectional.

i agree. i'm not takin anything from any of the d3 sectional teams there are some talented teams but no offense but untill someone beats the burg they are still the defending district and regional champs who was just seconds from sending last years final four game with the now 3 time defending state champs into a 2nd ot

moose · Post by **moose** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:38 am

Gotta agree about the Burg. Nobody in the OVC plays defense like Wheelersburg does. There are some good offensive teams in the OVC this year, but defense carries you in the tournament run.

Still cannot believe the Burg didn't win it all last year. One bad half did them in.

Army · Post by **Army** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:44 am

moose wrote:Gotta agree about the Burg. Nobody in the OVC plays defense like Wheelersburg does. There are some good offensive teams in the OVC this year, but defense carries you in the tournament run.

Still cannot believe the Burg didn't win it all last year. One bad half did them in.

Hey Moose,

I sure hope they play defense in the Sectionals

At least better than they did against Chillicothe at their cracker-box gym in the Burg

Twenty-Six Points is a lot to be defeated by at home by knowing how to play defense. Have they finally learned to play defense

Maybe that helmet is to small for that noggin

If South Point makes it out, I can see them beating the Burg.

moose · Post by **moose** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:48 am

Chillicothe and Zanesville are a notch above anyone in southeastern Ohio this year.

And there are several Division III teams capable of the upset as DIII is as balanced as I have seen it in years. But the Burg is defending champs and are a bit better than the others IMHO.

someoverkill · Post by **someoverkill** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:05 am

After further review, this really was a horrible draw. South Point at the time of the draw had played 14 games. 9 of those games were at home and of the 5 away games, one was with Ironton St Joe and one was Huntington St Joe. I don't believe SP played the West Union game that was a scheduled road game. They still have games on the road with Peebles, River Valley, Chesapeake and Rock Hill and still have a home game with Fairland. Now compare that with Wheelersburg. Yes, the Pirates have lost 2 games, but one was to Oak Hill on the road early and the other was to Chillicothe. A team with talent South Point hasn't dreamed of seeing yet. Wheelersburg has also played 8 away games versus 7 home games after 15 games. The Pirates have also played Huntington High (not St Joe), Ironton (not St Joe) and Portsmouth. They beat Chesapeake on the road (something South Point has yet to do)and they beat Northwest twice, I believe. (once on the road, which SP beat at SP). I am sure nobody looks at anything ike this when the draw comes down. i am sure they just vote for their buddies and conference schools. However to say the Pointers deserve the #1 slot, not good in my opinion. The good thing is, they will have to lay the games. If South Point makes it out of the district, I will give them their kudos.

TheMalteseFalcon · Post by **TheMalteseFalcon** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:22 am

Army wrote:If South Point makes it out, I can see them beating the Burg. [/b][/color]

I'm betting that you haven't even seen South Point play this year. I'm also betting that the only ARMY you were ever in was the SALVATION ARMY. :roll:

BULDOG · Post by **BULDOG** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:33 am

Army,
No comparison in the Burg that Chilli beat and the current Burg team. They are by far a much better team than the Chilli week. Especially defensively. By far best defensive team that South Point may face.

A South Point/Burg matchup would be a great game and yes the Pointers would have an excellent chance to beat Burg.

OVClocal · Post by **OVClocal** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:35 am

Common opponents for the Burg and SP are Peake, Northwest, Portsmouth, Valley, and SW. Both teams are 5-0 against their common opponents .

Army · Post by **Army** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:37 am

BULDOG wrote:Army,
No comparison in the Burg that Chilli beat and the current Burg team. They are by far a much better team than the Chilli week. Especially defensively. By far best defensive team that South Point may face.

A South Point/Burg matchup would be a great game and yes the Pointers would have an excellent chance to beat Burg.

Good Luck

someoverkill · Post by **someoverkill** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:29 am

does location of those 5 games mean anything? South Point beat Northwest by 1 point at South Point I believe. How did Wheelersburg do against Northwest this season? I believe they are 2-0 against them. How did those games go? I think the great thing about this draw for Ironton and Rock hill is that IF they beat South Point, they become the number one seed. Like I said earlier, this is going to be very interesting. The way sectional tournaments have gone the past several years, there is rarely a #1 or #2 seed that even plays a close game, until the districts. Regardless of whether it is Rock hill or Ironton, i believe a game on a neutral floor will be a good close game.

BULDOG · Post by **BULDOG** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:42 am

Burg defeated NW 62-49 @ Burg. Really wasn't a close game at all. I may be wrong but I think Burg may have led by 20 at one point.

The second meeting @ NW was cancelled due to snow and will be played Feb 6th I believe.

osumufan · Post by **osumufan** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:31 pm

After watching most of SP's game I have to admit we haven't played too many tough teams but that is not the players fault. But I also see that the Pointers seem to play at the level of competition they are playing. SP has also improved tremendously since the beginning of the season when it comes to defense and looking for the open man. I think the Pointers will be fine in the sectional but that is why we play the games. Only time will tell if the Pointers are as good as their record. I am hoping they make it back to the convo and really expect that they will.

I think Sp would have been better off in the sectional to get the #2 seed Coal Grove and Belpre don't impress me at all I would be more concerned to play Ironton or Rock Hill than either of the #7 or #10. Ironton has played a tougher schedule and Lafon can really coach against teams when he is the underdog. Like when he beat the Peake twice in one season when he was at SP.

Mad-Dogg · Post by **Mad-Dogg** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:35 pm

moose wrote:Gotta agree about the Burg. Nobody in the OVC plays defense like Wheelersburg does. There are some good offensive teams in the OVC this year, but defense carries you in the tournament run.

Still cannot believe the Burg didn't win it all last year. One bad half did them in.

one bad half and a VERY AMAZING buzzer beater at the end of ot

danicalifornia · Post by **danicalifornia** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:01 pm

South Point, IMO, deserved the 1 seed. I just don't see how a team who hasn't lost, isn't guarenteed the 1 seed. I know that the Burg has played a tougher schedule and may be the better of the two teams, but they have dropped a pair. Even though, that pair was against two very, very good basketball teams.

With that said, if I was Wheelersburg, I'd be happier with the 2. That way, your sectional final game should be much less of a challenge than against either Ironton or Rock Hill.

JIMMY THE GREEK · Post by **JIMMY THE GREEK** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:36 pm

Ironman92 wrote:I don't know if it is possible to rig it this well but the SVC had 6 teams @ Waverly and none of them face each other in the first game????.....but of 5 SHL schools 4 of them face a league foe in their first game?....and the only one that doesn't is North Adams who got a horrible #7/#10 draw with Zane Trace and Portsmouth.

Piketon has an easier route out of the sectional than #2 NA....but the Burg is awaiting in the districts.

South Point has to face Rock Hill or Ironton to get out and #2 Burg gets Belpre...maybe

Most teams had identical records or close to it. North Adams just got bad luck of the draw....they had to be a #2, because of their overall record, the closest team would be Lynchburg with 5 L's and Adena or Piketon with 6 L's. The only alternative would be like the Central District..the coaches vote the top 15 seeds and starting with #1 seed each coach place his team anywhere on the bracket. Or go down the line by overall records, teams with identical records go to a coin toss, or coaches vote, and then select where you want to go on the bracket....but theres still a chance you would get a lousy draw.