Best Coach in TVC?

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Judge Smales wrote:The Athens Messenger is reporting that Jay Kline may be headed to Duke!
Details at 11:00. :razz:


I've heard ESPN is flying a crew into Butchel for coverage of the press conference. Rocky Boots is the corporate sponsor.

I don't think you really can argue with Combs not being considered one of the best in the league. Since he got here, VC has built a pretty consistent program. Year in, year out they seem to have winning records.

The monkey stuff isn't very nice. And I don't think he looks like he's starring into the son. BUT, sometimes when the game gets REAL intense, my little daughter says his face looks like he's constipated. :? :shock:


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Combs is one of the best. So is Royster and Hale. I think they help a lot.

Jay Kline faces the problem of Ny not loving basketball. those people love there football.


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On the Hocking side, it's not fair to say Vales is better than Howie. This is Bob Vales first season as a head coach. Caldwell was coaching teams to the state championship game when a lot of current head coaches were in high school. Howie does an excellent job of playing the cards he's dealt.

Bob Vales has done a tremendous job in his first season, and has beaten a few teams that probably had more talent and certainly more height. But he needs a few more seasons under his belt before we compare him with Howie Caldwell.

This is one Lancer Fan who's keeping his fingers crossed that coach Vales sticks around a few years to prove me wrong!


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This is a rediculus conversation. You people are putting a JV coach, one that has won 6 games, over coach Caldwell.


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JayKlineFan wrote:Don't know why I put the question mark. It's Jay Kline and it's not even close. The man is coaching a bad JV team and has won 7 games. If he had fed hocks and vinton's talent, he would never lose. Ever.

Trimble plays Fh close 2 times....NY wins one and takes the other to ot with Trimble....NY doesn't have fh's girl's teams talent....though coach vales will make a grown man wet himself just by looking at him...sheesh...hes like a combo of chuck norris and the manager from major league...wouldn't fuss with him..


Coach "i always look like im staring into the sun" Combs has better talent than the rest of the ohio division combined. He won the tvc again? yawn. A monkey could coach that talent to tvc ohio crowns. Jay Kline would win state crowns....

Jay Kline is the best.



Hmmm..

I will say this for Jay Kline. I didn't expect Nelsonville-York to win more than two or three games this year. I thought they would be bad even by recent Nelsonville-York standards. He has done much better than I expected.

I also like Vales, Combs, Caldwell, and Gabriel.

Gabriel will win the league whenever his talent is capable or close to capable. When Alexander won the league a couple of seasons ago, there was no way Alexander was the most talented team in the Ohio that season. No way.

Combs has won every year. He does have a load of talent, but as others have mentioned, he has put together that program. Not only are the programs good at the youth levels, but his assistants (fr/jv) are also top notch. Good coaches are smart enough to hire other good coaches. Plus, Vinton County's talent could be wasted, could it not?

Caldwell has proven all he needs to prove. He has won league titles, but has mostly made his mark in the tournament. Once you have made several regional appearances, along with a final four appearance, you have shown yourself to be a good coach.

Vales has been great this season. I, as a FH homer, expected the Lancers to contend this season, but never expected a 10-0 Hocking Division record and a 16-4 record overall. He had a team with 7 players in the rotation, multiple instances of injuries, and not much height. Look at the end result. Is FH talented? Yes. They also have weaknesses, however.

I do agree, though, that I would never fuss with Bob Vales. :-D

Also, Kline has done a nice job. Like him or not, NY has overacheived a bit this year IMO.


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4sporterEHS wrote:This is a rediculus conversation. You people are putting a JV coach, one that has won 6 games, over coach Caldwell.


Kline is NY's varsity coach. His fan is just saying that his talent is at a JV level. I'm not sure I agree. He has overacheived IMO, but there is some nice young talent on that team. They'll be ok soon.


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Orestes wrote:
JayKlineFan wrote:Don't know why I put the question mark. It's Jay Kline and it's not even close. The man is coaching a bad JV team and has won 7 games. If he had fed hocks and vinton's talent, he would never lose. Ever.

Trimble plays Fh close 2 times....NY wins one and takes the other to ot with Trimble....NY doesn't have fh's girl's teams talent....though coach vales will make a grown man wet himself just by looking at him...sheesh...hes like a combo of chuck norris and the manager from major league...wouldn't fuss with him..


Coach "i always look like im staring into the sun" Combs has better talent than the rest of the ohio division combined. He won the tvc again? yawn. A monkey could coach that talent to tvc ohio crowns. Jay Kline would win state crowns....

Jay Kline is the best.



Hmmm..

I will say this for Jay Kline. I didn't expect Nelsonville-York to win more than two or three games this year. I thought they would be bad even by recent Nelsonville-York standards. He has done much better than I expected.

I also like Vales, Combs, Caldwell, and Gabriel.

Gabriel will win the league whenever his talent is capable or close to capable. When Alexander won the league a couple of seasons ago, there was no way Alexander was the most talented team in the Ohio that season. No way.

Combs has won every year. He does have a load of talent, but as others have mentioned, he has put together that program. Not only are the programs good at the youth levels, but his assistants (fr/jv) are also top notch. Good coaches are smart enough to hire other good coaches. Plus, Vinton County's talent could be wasted, could it not?

Caldwell has proven all he needs to prove. He has won league titles, but has mostly made his mark in the tournament. Once you have made several regional appearances, along with a final four appearance, you have shown yourself to be a good coach.

Vales has been great this season. I, as a FH homer, expected the Lancers to contend this season, but never expected a 10-0 Hocking Division record and a 16-4 record overall. He had a team with 7 players in the rotation, multiple instances of injuries, and not much height. Look at the end result. Is FH talented? Yes. They also have weaknesses, however.

I do agree, though, that I would never fuss with Bob Vales. :-D

Also, Kline has done a nice job. Like him or not, NY has overacheived a bit this year IMO.


wait til Jay Kline gets talent. there will be no questioning him at that time. Mr. camera man tough guy. dont act like everyone doesn't know who you are. more shots of Jay Kline please. would like to see some taping of him in the huddle during timeouts.


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JayKlineFan wrote:
Orestes wrote:
JayKlineFan wrote:Don't know why I put the question mark. It's Jay Kline and it's not even close. The man is coaching a bad JV team and has won 7 games. If he had fed hocks and vinton's talent, he would never lose. Ever.

Trimble plays Fh close 2 times....NY wins one and takes the other to ot with Trimble....NY doesn't have fh's girl's teams talent....though coach vales will make a grown man wet himself just by looking at him...sheesh...hes like a combo of chuck norris and the manager from major league...wouldn't fuss with him..


Coach "i always look like im staring into the sun" Combs has better talent than the rest of the ohio division combined. He won the tvc again? yawn. A monkey could coach that talent to tvc ohio crowns. Jay Kline would win state crowns....

Jay Kline is the best.



Hmmm..

I will say this for Jay Kline. I didn't expect Nelsonville-York to win more than two or three games this year. I thought they would be bad even by recent Nelsonville-York standards. He has done much better than I expected.

I also like Vales, Combs, Caldwell, and Gabriel.

Gabriel will win the league whenever his talent is capable or close to capable. When Alexander won the league a couple of seasons ago, there was no way Alexander was the most talented team in the Ohio that season. No way.

Combs has won every year. He does have a load of talent, but as others have mentioned, he has put together that program. Not only are the programs good at the youth levels, but his assistants (fr/jv) are also top notch. Good coaches are smart enough to hire other good coaches. Plus, Vinton County's talent could be wasted, could it not?

Caldwell has proven all he needs to prove. He has won league titles, but has mostly made his mark in the tournament. Once you have made several regional appearances, along with a final four appearance, you have shown yourself to be a good coach.

Vales has been great this season. I, as a FH homer, expected the Lancers to contend this season, but never expected a 10-0 Hocking Division record and a 16-4 record overall. He had a team with 7 players in the rotation, multiple instances of injuries, and not much height. Look at the end result. Is FH talented? Yes. They also have weaknesses, however.

I do agree, though, that I would never fuss with Bob Vales. :-D

Also, Kline has done a nice job. Like him or not, NY has overacheived a bit this year IMO.


wait til Jay Kline gets talent. there will be no questioning him at that time. Mr. camera man tough guy. dont act like everyone doesn't know who you are. more shots of Jay Kline please. would like to see some taping of him in the huddle during timeouts.


Ummmm ok :shock:

I'm pretty sure that everyone who knows me in real life, knows who I am on this board. I have never made much of an attempt to hide it.

BTW, I said that Jay Kline has done a good job this season. He really has IMO. Don't rip on me just because I'm not hanging from his onions like you pal.

Lastly, I can't help you much with the timeouts. I don't call the shots. I do as I'm told. There will only be a few more games for me, then there will be a vacancy in the position. Maybe you can apply. That way you can tape Jay Kline's hindparts the entire game :lol:
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I like to sit close to the bench so I can listen to strategy. so no thanks of the camera thing. oh and i was just kidding you around. you seem like a alright kid.

just a few huddle shots please?


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maybe jaykline fan you all can go mormon or something and have a berkley style commune.

i am NOT from vinton as most of you know. a program like that does not happen by accident even if you DO hit a pocket of talent. it takes a great mind to plan and get everyone to buy into the vision.
i have said on here before coaches need to sell themselves and their visions to the kids, parents and the school boards. coach combs has done that so he is far and away the best coach in the tvc. not because he wins but because he has the whole community behind him.

meigs is not there yet, but i have hope they may be moving in the right direction.


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fasteach wrote:i'am NOT from vinton as most of you know. a program like that does not happen by accident even if you DO hit a pocket of talent. it takes a great mind to plan and get everyone to buy into the vision.
i have said on here before coaches need to sell themselves and their visions to the kids, parents and the school boards. coach combs has done that so he is far and away the best coach in the tvc. not because he wins but because he has the whole community behind him.

meigs is not there yet, but i have hope they may be moving in the right direction.


Nice post fastech......I think Combs would be the first to admit that VC has had great support from a wonderful staff that makes VC the program they are today.

I also think that Orestes makes some really good points with his rundown of TVC Coaches.

Best of luck to Meigs.
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I am changing my handle to TyWebbFan! :-D


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Judge Smales wrote:I am changing my handle to TyWebbFan! :-D


You're not as dumb as I thought you were. :razz:


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I simply can't help myself! I have taken down my shrine of Jay Kline, allthough I refuse to part with my Leaf Garrett poster, and plastered Ty Webb previous posts and rants in my bedroom. It helps me sleep better in my pj's with the footies and rear flap! So long Jay Kline! Long live Leaf Garrett and Ty Webb! :oops:


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Looks like the GREAT ONE lost tonight!!!!!! :oops:


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I'd have to say Howie Caldwells the best coach


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Post by Steely Dan »

I'll take Bob Vales if we want to predict which coach in either division would win the UFC between coaches.

Jay Kline would be cryin' for momma after about 10 seconds........


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Steely Dan wrote:I'll take Bob Vales if we want to predict which coach in either division would win the UFC between coaches.

Jay Kline would be cryin' for momma after about 10 seconds........


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: ;-) ;-) ;-)



Jay Kline would be 2nd.
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I cannot think of 1 other tvc coach who could ever feel at all comfordable about winning 7 games with NYs roster. You all laugh about them being against Trimble Miller and Meigs and Athens but Trimble and Miller and Meigs all played Fed Hock pretty well. You know Great Fed Hock. :roll: talented and fast fed hock that is


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This is ridiculous!!!! Jay Kline does NOT deserve this. He is a great coach, but to say someone else isn't, or should be replace by Monkeys is idiotic and asinine.

I agree. Combs has definatley had alot to do with the development of talent in V.C..He has also had a lot of help, such as, Bob Grillo, Frank Guthrie, the late John Prater, Terry Hale etc.



As for Vinton County success, I am very humble to be recognized with that group of fine individuals. However, Coach Matt Combs is by far the biggest reason for VC success. He has put the right people in place to be successful and has a great sense of developing individual talent and having that talent recognizing their roles with in the team. And he will be the first to tell you that he has been blessed with WONDERFUL players, which could be attributed to their parents.

There are some that say it is just because there is talent, but VC has always had talent. And for those who need proof, think of this;

1997-1998 -- Ryan Caudill, Todd Braden, Aaron Ward, Casey Nice, 6'8" Chad Damron, Josh Patterson, just to name a few. They were 11-10.

1993-1994 -- Andy Booth, Jason Snider, Scott Braden, Nolan Yates, Jeremy Ward, just to name a few. They were 12-10.

1990-1991 -- Jason Caudill, Tommy Reid, Shawn Speakman, Ray Braden, Jason Williams, just to name a few. They were 16-6.

1980-1981 -- Tim Hale, Randy Prater, Danny Peyton, Jeff Oney, David Cottrill, again just to name a few. They were 8-14.

That should clear up any argument, there has always been talent at VC, but Matt Combs has won with it.


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HP - I believe that "Butters" has reappeared, under a new moniker........... ;-)


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