MARVIN LEWIS DOESN'T(didn't use to) KNOW HOW TO WIN

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BENGALS RECORD
2009 3-1?????? :122246 15-1???????? :lol:
2008 4-11-1
2007 7-9
2006 8-8
2005 11-5
2004 8-8
2003 8-8
2002 2-14
2001 4-12
1999 4-12
1998 3-13
1997 7-9
1996 8-8
1995 7-9
1994 3-13
1993 5-11
1992 5-11
1991 3-13
1990 9-7

1980s
Decade Record: 81-71-0

1970s
Decade Record: 74-70-0

1960s
Decade Record: 7-20-1


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my2cents wrote:BENGALS RECORD
2009 3-1?????? :122246 15-1???????? :lol:
2008 4-11-1
2007 7-9
2006 8-8
2005 11-5
2004 8-8
2003 8-8
2002 2-14
2001 4-12
1999 4-12
1998 3-13
1997 7-9
1996 8-8
1995 7-9
1994 3-13
1993 5-11
1992 5-11
1991 3-13
1990 9-7

1980s
Decade Record: 81-71-0

1970s
Decade Record: 74-70-0

1960s
Decade Record: 7-20-1



Wow, 2 winning records since 1990. I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize it was that bad.


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Marv knows how to win . and so does zimmer . God bless those two. I love them both !!!!!!!


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the Bengals have won 4 in a row and your saying Marvin Lewis doesn't know how to win?


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The original post was in reference to the first two games in which the Bengals time management was terrible. It wasn't much better against the Browns considering they let the clock run down to 7 seconds before kicking the winning field goal. With the bad snap history, including todays game, why would you no leave yourself enough time to take a second shot at the FG, in case the snap is mishandled. Today was better but clock management and play calling was not as big of factor as the ravens 3 or 4 big penalties. But a win is a win.


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you can't argue 4-1 no matter how the coaching is.


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All I can say is that if you don't understand that the original post was after game 2 and how lucky the Bengals have been to win the next 3 games, I can't really help you here. I am a Bengal fan and I am grateful that they are 4 -1. What I have learned over the years is having access to the internet doesn't make you any smarter.


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Nice change to post :-D :-D


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haha yeah I liked the topic I posted to fire back after your assumption! :lol:

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ace63 wrote:Nice change to post :-D :-D


Had to settle down the restless natives who don't understand that the original post was written after game two. Some folks just can't figure out that time has passed since it was posted. I guess they could read "Michael Jackson to perform live tonight" and not realize it was written 3 months ago. Like I said, having access to the internet doesn't make you smart enough to use it.


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my2cents wrote:
ace63 wrote:Nice change to post :-D :-D


Had to settle down the restless natives who don't understand that the original post was written after game two. Some folks just can't figure out that time has passed since it was posted. I guess they could read "Michael Jackson to perform live tonight" and not realize it was written 3 months ago. Like I said, having access to the internet doesn't make you smart enough to use it.


well, to take up for the people in that matter i would have to say that even if it was posted after week 2 you didn't post "marvin lewis doesn't know how to win in the first 2 weeks" or whatever? you posted "he doesn't know how to win" which states he doesn't know how to win AT ALL. that's my 2 cents


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How about instead of just argueing with the title of the original post, try reading it (I know it's tough, since there are no pictures) and then debating on the content. I have yet to have one response defending the terrible clock management and play calling. That was the gist of the post in the first place.


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I know it's hard to admit you were wrong. You had to edit your post title and everything and go back on your original statement. I truthfully think he is doing a fine job coaching this year and the game they lost was a fluke. The team got extremely lucky at the end of the game and I enjoy watching the Bengals come down to the last play it makes things a lot more interesting in the NFL and makes Bengals fans a lot happier. Whenever the Bengals ALMOST won but got beat in the final seconds vs the Broncos was a bad time for the team and the fans but they have fixed things and haven't lost since. I enjoy watching the Bengals and think Marvin Lewis is doing a fine job this season.

I know almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but I still believe the Bengals have improved a lot since last season.


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IWB, I didn't expect you to catch on or actually read the original post. I don't have to admit I am wrong until someone makes a valid arguement against the original post. I changed the title to (didn't use to) to help the clueless posters who can't comprehend it was written after the second game of the season. I agree they lost the first game on a fluke, or at least a bad decision by the defense to try and tip the ball up for interception, and leaving your man to come up and hit the reciever who already had double coverage. So sometimes what appears to be a fluke could have been prevented. Here is part of the original post.

For example, in game one, with the clock running down and the Bengals about to take the lead as time runs out, he calls a time out and stops the clock. The Bengals end up scoring with about 45 seconds left instead of under 20 seconds. I know they lost on a fluke play, but things would have been different with less than 20 seconds. Denver would have not have time to try several sideline passes, and the fluke tip would not have happened (which actually was the defensive players fault, for he purposely tipped it up trying to get the interception by a teamate).

The Bengals are definetly better than last year and the addition of Zimmer as defensive coach has helped them a lot. Lewis has done better in the past few games but you can't keep winning like they have been. It seems that right now fate is smiling on them. I hope they win out the rest of the season.


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With all that being said, my thoughts are still this.

You stated that Marvin Lewis didn't know how to win. You stated it, no matter what time of the day, what week, what month, or what year. You posted it and if you wanna go back on it sure, go right ahead. Just proving that it was posted, you said it. The End.

All I gotta say is he won, he knew how to win except for ONE game.


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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.


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sure but you were still wrong. haha


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Well, I been watching football a long time. (long time) When you are behind. You cant manage the clock. Suppose you run the time down and you dont score. You dont have another chance , because you ran the clock down (hoping to score) That is not guranteed. You can only manage the clock when you are ahead. Not when your behind. When your behind you have to score or you will lose the game. If your ahead then you run the clock down to keep other teams time down. Marv is a good coach. He has not always had the players he wanted. He does now.


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I'll agree with you ace, except on a field goal, in which case you want to run as much time off the clock before scoring to keep your opponent from having time to score on you.
So explain this one to me. In the Cleveland game, tied 20 - 20 in OT, why did the Begnals (I won't just say Marvin Lewis) waste their last time out, and then let the clock run down to 7 seconds before kicking the field goal to win the game. Did they not understand it was sudden death and there was no reason to run out all the clock. With the history of bad snaps (2 in that very game) why would you not stop the clock and kick the FG with enough time to re-kick if you lost the handle on the snap and had to fall on it. If St Louis had made one of his over the head bad snaps, time would have run out and the game would have ended in a tie. That is bad time management, IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Bengals, but those type of things drive me crazy.


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If theres 22 seconds left on clock, you have to get your offense off the field and field goal team on and give them time as to not hurry. I tihink getting it done in 13 seconds is really good. Has nothing to do with clock management. Clock management is done when your ahead period. And things dont always happen the way you want thm too. If we were not there. How can we judge ??????


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