Mike Peria view on Steelers Harrison hit during Bills game

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THE SITUATION: Buffalo had the ball with 4:46 left in the third quarter, second-and-10 at the Buffalo 20-yard line. The Bills trailed 13-0.

This is the view of ex NFL's Vice President of Officiating

THE PLAY: Buffalo quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick attempted a pass to David Nelson that was incomplete, but Fitzpatrick was hit by Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison, who was penalized for roughing the passer.

It appeared that Harrison came up underneath Fitzpatrick's chin and led with his helmet, but the league will definitely look to see if there was clear helmet-to-helmet contact.

MY TAKE: Harrison is walking a fine line. If the NFL deems that he did make helmet-to-helmet contact, it would seem that it would have no choice but to suspend him. He's already been fined $100,000 this season, and, in my opinion, the league can't back off.

It's time to send the ultimate signal to every player and suspend Harrison for his fourth illegal hit this season.


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Harrison is dirty. He was dirty in College and he plays dirty now. He loves to cheap shot people. I'm not saying he is the only one in the league cause there is a pretty long list right now, but the fact is he is a dirty player.


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whole teams sux balls. QB is a barbaric womanizing POS, Harrison is a cheap shot artist. Hind End Ward constantly runs his mouth , the whole team gives what was a proud franchise a black eye.


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harrison is just flat out dirty. they must do something with him, before he cripples somebody. i saw it live. he led with the crown of his helmet, and is just challenging the nfl. if they changed the rule, it is to protect both players.


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Wow, I guess I'm the only one on here who enjoys real football and not the watered down, overpriced powder puff stuff. Harrison is one of the best linebackers in the league and I'll defend his play thus far all day long. You guys have gotten caught up in the hype. What it's all about if the fact that the NFL is scared to death of the players unions. That's why these players are getting paid these outrageous salaries. Personally, I think a player should sign a waiver upon entering the NFL, clearing the NFL of responsibility of his injury. Ask any physician, the #1 safety rule of football is: don't play football. Don't want to get hurt? Get off the field and let the men play, panty-waste, because 1000s of people would take your salary and the hits that come with it, me included.
But let's face it, if this was a bungal or a clown in question nothing would be said on here.


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fuzzhead wrote:Wow, I guess I'm the only one on here who enjoys real football and not the watered down, overpriced powder puff stuff. Harrison is one of the best linebackers in the league and I'll defend his play thus far all day long. You guys have gotten caught up in the hype. What it's all about if the fact that the NFL is scared to death of the players unions. That's why these players are getting paid these outrageous salaries. Personally, I think a player should sign a waiver upon entering the NFL, clearing the NFL of responsibility of his injury. Ask any physician, the #1 safety rule of football is: don't play football. Don't want to get hurt? Get off the field and let the men play, panty-waste, because 1000s of people would take your salary and the hits that come with it, me included.
But let's face it, if this was a bungal or a clown in question nothing would be said on here.
If your playing hardnosed football thats one thing, when you set out to cheap shot guys thats another. I don't care what team you play for if your dirty your dirty. I got an idea, Lets just get rid of rules!


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fuzzhead wrote:Wow, I guess I'm the only one on here who enjoys real football and not the watered down, overpriced powder puff stuff. Harrison is one of the best linebackers in the league and I'll defend his play thus far all day long. You guys have gotten caught up in the hype. What it's all about if the fact that the NFL is scared to death of the players unions. That's why these players are getting paid these outrageous salaries. Personally, I think a player should sign a waiver upon entering the NFL, clearing the NFL of responsibility of his injury. Ask any physician, the #1 safety rule of football is: don't play football. Don't want to get hurt? Get off the field and let the men play, panty-waste, because 1000s of people would take your salary and the hits that come with it, me included.
But let's face it, if this was a bungal or a clown in question nothing would be said on here.
I agree. They choose to play, and get paid the big money to do it, so there are consequences.

I understand hits to the head are a big no-no, but when you are out there playing the game and trying to win, you do what you can to make the play. Same could be said about horse-collar tackles, those tackles can absolutely tear up an ankle or knee. If you are going to fine someone for hits to the head that sometimes are not meant, then a blatant horse-collar tackle or facemask penalty should be considered worse.


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Harrison is just a hard nose football player!!! Lets play 2 hand touch LOL !!!


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OK, let's put skirts on the offensive players, and cushioned helmets on the defensive players. This entire issue, in my feeble mind, is absolutely ridiculous. The league markets themselves on "big hits", ESPN has their "JACKED UP" feature, and every one keeps crying out loud that so and so is a dirty player, he's trying to hurt someone, blah, blah, blah.

Shut up.

Eliminate the face mask, as suggested by Mike Ditka, and start tackling. The worst tackling occurs in the NFL, hands down. Make them lower their heads, face up, wrap, and pull the ball carrier down. I saw plently of so called tackles this weekend that involved the helmet, or arm extension into the players head, neck, face mask, that didn't get called, that was ridiculous.

Football isn't for pantywaists, nor is it for thugs. Take the emphasis off of bodily collisions, and put it on sound fundamentals, and I believe, the talking heads and cryers will have nothing to beoch about. Just my two cents.........


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GAHS,
Yes, the average football player is bigger now than 50 years ago - but that's across the board, not just linebackers. The same goes for humanity in general. It evens itself out.

There is a very simple way to make sure guys cut down on head to head hits: take the ridiculously huge plastic battering rams off their heads and let them wear leather again and see if they want to go head to head with another guy.
Yeah, no duh that if you get hit in the head enough, you will have side effects. Just like people who used to work in some factories now have cancer caused by asbestos. At the time, they didn't know it was a carcinogen. Every job has things that could cause trouble for you down the line. People in this area should know all about the side effects of industry, but it's either that or you don't have jobs. I could get cancer down the road because of the crap the oil refinery spews out into the air and i've never worked there, but some people do and they are very well-compensated.
Yes, you give me Tom Brady's salary and I'll take hits all day until they cart me off the field. I'll get my money whether I'm on the field or in the hospital.
Talk to the guys who work on barges on the Ohio who've watched people they've worked with fall
in and get sucked up under the barge and then have their cold, dead corpse pried out of the Greenup
dam or chopped into pieces by the propeller. They still work and they make money for their family. Te risk is part of the job. Talk to a soldier about risk/reward - they're far less compensated. Talk to the former soldiers who sit outside Great American Ballpark with one arm or one leg and beg for money and then tell me football players aren't well-compensated.


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I miss the days when people would make big hit and there would be no consequences for it. But i do see a difference between big hits and helmet ot helmet. If both players are moving and helmets collide then im fine with it. But if u have a qb standing in the pocket and he gets hit helmet to helmet i think it's uncalled for. Harrison is a great lb but is a punk. If ur going to put a hard hit on someone fine get up and go back to the huddle, dont walk over them and start talking trash !


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i watch the same game on saturdays and this does not happen. these guys are taught at a grade school level , NOT TO LEAD WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET. i love hardnosed football, as rough as you can get. but helmet shots will not be allowed anymore , for a reason, it is not only to protect the man being hit, but the tackler. sure they make huge money. stupidly huge money. i'd play for 13 million a year without a helmet. don't think i wouldn't either. heck take my shoulder pads too. college this does not happen, and anybody that thinks it's because of the difference in speed has wool between their ears.it is a rule, just like speeding, it is no longer allowed, if you do it, you'll pay dearly. harrison, is just taunting the nfl.


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and yes, harrison , is a thug. an assassin., if you will.


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thats my story, and i'm stickin to it. i only got to play through my sophomore year at ironton, because of an illegal chop block. is that good hard nosed football , hell no. it's illegal.

and if you don't know what a chop block is, it's when you are a defensive lineman, and you are engaged with a blocker, either one on one, or in a middle guards case. most always a double team. then someone chops down on your knee. to purposely injure you. it has ruined a big part of the quality of my life , and 5 reconstructive surgeries later, i have a steel knee. and to think i was just doing it , because i loved football.


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so don't tell me you cannot tackle someone to the ground without leading with the crown of your helmet, aiming it directly at another helmet. have i been hit helmet to helmet, absolutely. you don't play an interior line position without that happening. heck maybe 2 out of 4 plays. nobody gives a rats ---. about the linemen, just protect the skill players at all cost.


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Tackling has not good for many years. To many players have been looking to knock down people instead of tackling. Tackling the right way has been lacking. The NFL needs to do a better job teaching with all coaches and players.

Just as Peria is used by Fox Tv for games. The NFL needs to have a ref review all hits during a game that get flagged. Sometimes a different angle and slowing it down shows clearly that it was legal or not. Players will adjust when the games are called correctly all the time.


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BS!!! PLAY THE GAME!!! IF HE WAS A BROWN LOL RIGHT 4-EVER!!! THUG !!! GIVE ME A BREAK. THIS IS THE NFL !!! JACK LAMBERT BACK IN THE DAY.


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Wah, wah, wah! It wasn't even a direct helmet to helmet hit - it wasn't even in the same category as the one he put on Massaquoi (sp).


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Isn't football suppose to be a "physical" sport? :?


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And you can name all these examples that you want. There are lots of jobs out there that are just as dangerous that don't pay nearly as much.
This is about protecting high-priced talent and keeping the union from going even more bizerk. The safety of the players has nothing to do with it. Refer to fight that broke out in the Tennessee game. There, you had players swinging punches and they both got a slap on the wrist. If Harrison had done this to Brady, he'd have been in deep trouble. That's because Brady is a pretty-boy sissy who gets mad when he gets hit. He's also highly paid. The NFL benefits when he doesn't get hurt. It also benefits when Houston's WR gets to play on Thursday night on their channel.


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