Don't judge Fox by the Panther's free fall. With the injuries to the o-line and an owner that refused to pay anyone that was old enough to grow facial hair it made his job next to impossible especially with their schedule. He will finish with a winning record for his time in Carolina and while i don't like his coaching style i don't think that he was the problem this season.dazed&confused wrote:What to make of this game? Are the Browns getting better? No. Are there pieces in place that give Browns fans hope? Yes. Does making a change at coach again make sense? I hope so because it is coming. The real question is where do the Browns go for a new head coach. If the answer is John Fox, I'll personally go to Cleveland and spit in Holmgren's face. How can any fan of either team feel good about this game?
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I guess you had to be there, she was meaner than a snake that had a rat taken from her.biggdowgg wrote:LOL,,just saying maybe she was just trying to have a frindly little "get ready for the game " chat to get things going before the gameace63 wrote:I passed her a didnt say a word. If she wants to run her mouth, she should expect that. Just like most browns fans i know.biggdowgg wrote:good to see you are in the Christmas spirit .
But i did have 1 at my house today, he was a good person . Not the mouthy ones.![]()
but she should have expected to get a good cussing or worse, because most bengal fans "most that I know anyway" , cant seem to take a joke.
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but congrats, you got the last laugh . 8)

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Glad you had a good time, first games are the best. I refuse to go in cold weather,But kids dont mindgunit wrote:We had a great time at the game. My wife and daughter went shopping and dropped us off right by the stadium. My son was in amazement of the stadium and how people were yelling an hour before kickoff. We had good seats and he even got to listen to a drunk family of idiots argue amongst themselves.(one was a Browns fan, the other 7 were Bengals fans.) People overall were pretty calm in the section we were in.
We only got cold when we realized that our feet were in a puddle of melted snow

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I agree with a lot of your sentiments. But as for the coaching change, that was inevitable as soon as Lerner hired Holmgren. Mangini might as well be speaking Dutch to Holmgren's English. Two different systems, two different lineages, I almost get the feeling Holmgren was pissed that Mangini finished last year on a high note so he couldn't replace him then. Hey, we got a QB now. Heckert and Holmgren will continue to put the pieces in place. Again, Lerner needed to get the management in place BEFORE he hired the coach but now the timeline will be set right. I actually feel a little bit better today than at any other time near the end of the season recently. I saw what Holmgren did in Green Bay. Give him a chance. (He just may be the new coach).
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gahs4ever wrote:Im PO'd about being 5-9 and you're happy at 3-11?
Browns wins over NE and NO negated by losing to losers like the Bills and the Bengals. Now there is talk of getting rid of Mangini and starting over again. Im tired of starting over and too old for this crap.
They ought to take the ownership away from both owners, combine the rosters and put the new team in Columbus.
^^^^dripping sarcasm, sort of. Im tired of empty promises and people who say they have the answers and dont know diddley.
they just dont understand what they done to temselves with this win


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--------------------------------------------------------------------------- no i ain't happy abbout winning 3 games . but i'll take any win over a division team anytime.gahs4ever wrote:Im PO'd about being 5-9 and you're happy at 3-11?
Browns wins over NE and NO negated by losing to losers like the Bills and the Bengals. Now there is talk of getting rid of Mangini and starting over again. Im tired of starting over and too old for this crap.
They ought to take the ownership away from both owners, combine the rosters and put the new team in Columbus.
^^^^dripping sarcasm, sort of. Im tired of empty promises and people who say they have the answers and dont know diddley.
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I dont think he was talking about the draft, maybe more like the coach.i know dowgg, threw a wrench in the whole draft.
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