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If he's the running back / cb he will get no stick time at the d1 level ..
The burrow kid is great , but he will have less improvement from high school to the college level than most athletes ... The kids dad is a college coach .. He's already been somewhat coached like a college athlete ... He's far ahead of others , but will have less room for improvement at the next level
The burrow kid is great , but he will have less improvement from high school to the college level than most athletes ... The kids dad is a college coach .. He's already been somewhat coached like a college athlete ... He's far ahead of others , but will have less room for improvement at the next level
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How so?nybucks70-80 wrote:Walking in a team and never playing does not a D1 player make!
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Williams dad is also a coach at Ohio University.seoconstruction wrote:If he's the running back / cb he will get no stick time at the d1 level ..
The burrow kid is great , but he will have less improvement from high school to the college level than most athletes ... The kids dad is a college coach .. He's already been somewhat coached like a college athlete ... He's far ahead of others , but will have less room for improvement at the next level
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seoconstruction wrote:If he's the running back / cb he will get no stick time at the d1 level ..
The burrow kid is great , but he will have less improvement from high school to the college level than most athletes ... The kids dad is a college coach .. He's already been somewhat coached like a college athlete ... He's far ahead of others , but will have less room for improvement at the next level
You are an idiot with that comment, the kid has more offers than any kid in Southern or SE Ohio in 15 years! With more to come. When it's all said and done he very well may be the most recruited player to ever come out of the region in any sport!
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Trea is definatly a D1 player. His upside is crazy. That means his potential is amazing. His room for growth, not just physical is amazing. He would have the same #'s if he played at Canton McKinley or Cleveland Glennville. I am origanlly from Canton and have seen D1 talent from Chris Speilman and Garland Rivers to Mike Does, and Devin Smith. Trea is that good. Palidumb tried to say that last year during the playoffs just hating on SE Ohio. The best way to deal with a poster like him who just wants to hate for whatever reason is tune him out.
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After seeing Trae at a recent track meet ... all I can say is: you haven't seen nothing yet!vctransplant wrote:Trea is definatly a D1 player. His upside is crazy. That means his potential is amazing. His room for growth, not just physical is amazing. He would have the same #'s if he played at Canton McKinley or Cleveland Glennville. I am origanlly from Canton and have seen D1 talent from Chris Speilman and Garland Rivers to Mike Does, and Devin Smith. Trea is that good. Palidumb tried to say that last year during the playoffs just hating on SE Ohio. The best way to deal with a poster like him who just wants to hate for whatever reason is tune him out.

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Why is this topic just about kids playing D1?
Any young person who gets to move on to play football at any division should be commended.
Folks should be talking up the kids who are playing D2 and D3 and NAIA
Any young person who gets to move on to play football at any division should be commended.
Folks should be talking up the kids who are playing D2 and D3 and NAIA
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It can be ... its just hard to track or have any info on those schools in D2, D3, NAIA.
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Speed kills! Athens has a lot more speed than anyone they play especially in the TVC, but as they've found out the last two years the team they've lost to in the playoffs have much much more speed. Fast enough to get to Burrow and be able to play off the receivers and still recover in plenty of time to cover them. The only player I see getting any type of hopeful playing time from SE Ohio is Burrow and the kid from Minford. History shows that most kids from here that go DI end up leaving the team after a year and at most two years. Its a whole other ball game. It's always nice to hope our kids get to the big level but I've seen a lot try and fail and they would have been better off to go DII or DIII and get to play maybe for four years and get the education.
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Don't underestimate WORK ETHIC - combined with natural gifts. Trae Williams looks like a completely different athlete right now than he did 6 months ago - if I were to guess, I'd say at least 15lbs of muscle has been put on ... he was borderline D1 this past fall as a junior - once he hits the field next fall you will see a solid D1 player for sure. Which is why he is receiving more D1 offers than just Ohio University.athens78 wrote:Speed kills! Athens has a lot more speed than anyone they play especially in the TVC, but as they've found out the last two years the team they've lost to in the playoffs have much much more speed. Fast enough to get to Burrow and be able to play off the receivers and still recover in plenty of time to cover them. The only player I see getting any type of hopeful playing time from SE Ohio is Burrow and the kid from Minford. History shows that most kids from here that go DI end up leaving the team after a year and at most two years. Its a whole other ball game. It's always nice to hope our kids get to the big level but I've seen a lot try and fail and they would have been better off to go DII or DIII and get to play maybe for four years and get the education.
Speed does kill - but eventually EVERY team will run up against a bigger, stronger unit (except one - the state champ). Athens reached the final 8 in 2012 and played a Thurgood team regarded by many as one of the fastest teams in D3 that year. Last season, I think it was the size (more than the speed) of Marion Franklin that did Athens in. The Red Devils may have been the biggest high school football team I have ever seen ... lol ... they were monsters - and fast! But, that too was a final 8 game and MF went on to ALMOST beat state champion ASVSM. They had the ball and driving for the tie before time ran out. MF proved how good they actually were in that game versus ASVSM - and you're talking about a MF program that was 91-9 (in the regular season) over the last 10 years in football. Not to mention repeated regional championships and a state final appearance.
There is no doubt Athens ran into some buzz-saw's in the elite 8 the last two years - but that's life in Ohio when you're a D3 team ... A LOT OF PROGRAM HEAVYWEIGHTS lurk in that division!
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Oh I agree just pointing out the speed of the game in College especially DI normally ends most SE players at that level. Williams I'm sure will at least go to OU isn't his dad there? It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for those to being on a DI squad but they've had the advantage of DI coaching dads which I'm sure has helped out greatly. The speed that has gotten Athens the last year will be even faster at that DI level. Edwards one of the best out of this area didn't make it after a year and look how he dominated the TVC when he was in it and there are many more like that. I just don't think that more then two maybe three are DI prospects and probably only one of those will have a legit shot of actually ever contributing to a team let alone stick it how the whole year. Oh and I watched the MF replay and youre right they were big but I also notice the speed that they used to get through Athens line and get to Burrow plus they could play off a receiver ten yards and still have speed to break up a pass something you don't see in the TVC, SVC, SEOAL or any other league in SE Ohio. Which luck to them all on the next step.
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Edwards made it ... the kid (or not a kid anymore) was a starting outside linebacker for Ohio.
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I think you are both right but another factor that hurts our kids is they usually don't have to wait their turn in High School. If you are a Division l athlete around here you are told in JH (and maybe rightfully so) that you could play varsity right now. Then when you do go up you play right away and maybe even star. Now you go to a program and see yourself as number 8 on the depth chart----you go through a couple weeks of practices and you are still #6. That has to be hard to take.
Burrows was fortunate (in my opinion) and had good classes above him and he was allowed to develop with the Freshman team. That means he has waited his turn and understands that it's a process----I hope he starts where ever he goes but if he doesn't he won't be deterred----and will continue to work.
Burrows was fortunate (in my opinion) and had good classes above him and he was allowed to develop with the Freshman team. That means he has waited his turn and understands that it's a process----I hope he starts where ever he goes but if he doesn't he won't be deterred----and will continue to work.
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Brad Young (Wellston) and Justin Roush (Meigs) both translated to the D1 level quite well. Young started for Ohio all 12 games his sophomore year and Roush I thought was one of the Bobcats best offensive weapons till be blew out his knee his senior year. Neither one of those players were as good as Justin Gail (NY) - but they worked hard, stayed the course and both ended up getting their shot. There is no doubt in my mind Trae Williams will have that opportunity at the D1 level somewhere down the road - he has what it takes mentally and he has the physical tools as well.athens78 wrote: Edwards one of the best out of this area didn't make it after a year and look how he dominated the TVC when he was in it and there are many more like that. I just don't think that more then two maybe three are DI prospects and probably only one of those will have a legit shot of actually ever contributing to a team let alone stick it how the whole year.
There is a HUGE difference between Ohio (or any D1 school) asking you to be a 'preferred walk-on' and having D1 schools openly recruiting you and officially offering you a scholarship. Williams I believe has 3 official offers as of right now and he hasn't played a down his senior year yet. You don't get offers from Toledo, Akron and Ohio unless they think you can play at the next level, that's for sure.
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What hurts most athletes from SE Ohio is handling academics as well as practice, workouts, time in the film room and all the other requirements that go with being a collegiate athlete.
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The Cadogan brothers of Portsmouth were very successful at Penn State, Gerald was a three year starter and an Academic All American, while Nate scored a touchdown vs Northwestern to help bring the Nittany Lions back in the second half from a 21-0 deficit at half to Northwestern,giving Joe Paterno his 400th win
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It isn't necessarily the speed that does it. It is the person. They are used to being a stand out on their team not having to pay their dues. If they understand that they are not going to be starters and stand outs right off the bat they are better off. Look at Fairchild he never red shirted and has continued to work hard. Gotten bigger stronger and considerably faster and does have a shot at the pinnacle. My point is it isn't necessarily the individuals talent that sends the athlete home it is the athletes head that does.athens78 wrote:Oh I agree just pointing out the speed of the game in College especially DI normally ends most SE players at that level. Williams I'm sure will at least go to OU isn't his dad there? It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for those to being on a DI squad but they've had the advantage of DI coaching dads which I'm sure has helped out greatly. The speed that has gotten Athens the last year will be even faster at that DI level. Edwards one of the best out of this area didn't make it after a year and look how he dominated the TVC when he was in it and there are many more like that. I just don't think that more then two maybe three are DI prospects and probably only one of those will have a legit shot of actually ever contributing to a team let alone stick it how the whole year. Oh and I watched the MF replay and youre right they were big but I also notice the speed that they used to get through Athens line and get to Burrow plus they could play off a receiver ten yards and still have speed to break up a pass something you don't see in the TVC, SVC, SEOAL or any other league in SE Ohio. Which luck to them all on the next step.
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Amen.93Bulldog wrote:Brad Young (Wellston) and Justin Roush (Meigs) both translated to the D1 level quite well. Young started for Ohio all 12 games his sophomore year and Roush I thought was one of the Bobcats best offensive weapons till be blew out his knee his senior year. Neither one of those players were as good as Justin Gail (NY) - but they worked hard, stayed the course and both ended up getting their shot. There is no doubt in my mind Trae Williams will have that opportunity at the D1 level somewhere down the road - he has what it takes mentally and he has the physical tools as well.athens78 wrote: Edwards one of the best out of this area didn't make it after a year and look how he dominated the TVC when he was in it and there are many more like that. I just don't think that more then two maybe three are DI prospects and probably only one of those will have a legit shot of actually ever contributing to a team let alone stick it how the whole year.
There is a HUGE difference between Ohio (or any D1 school) asking you to be a 'preferred walk-on' and having D1 schools openly recruiting you and officially offering you a scholarship. Williams I believe has 3 official offers as of right now and he hasn't played a down his senior year yet. You don't get offers from Toledo, Akron and Ohio unless they think you can play at the next level, that's for sure.