Region 9

[doubleplay643]

They are living off smaller schools and weenie programs. Just a fact.

Here is a fact your constant use of the word weenie and all the petty vitriolic nonsense that spews from your postings leads me to believe you are:

A) Compensating for something
B) Were never very good as a player in SEO
C) Were not very good as a coach in the SEOAL
D) All of the above

My guess...."D".

[doubleplay643]

If the Drew Pasteur prediction comes to fruition, I think DeSales is a tough but winnable game for Athens. They have a stout defense, but don't score a lot of points.

[Paladin]

Double-- no need to blow my horn. Locos and much of the Logan crowd know who I am. Former Logan player - All- SEOAL, All SEO. Former assistant coach at Logan ( where we lost only one game while I was there) and a former HC in the Zanesville area. BTW, glad you left South Logan. My Mother lives there.

Being a coach you have to listen to the peanut gallery. Being a fan, well..................



Region 9 is what it is. It will soon play out and then we'll revisit the subject. 8)

[93Bulldog]

of course you can say that, Paladin ... Toledo Central Catholic and ASVSM reside in a different region ... they will dominate DIII and you will come back on here and say "I told you so."

The fact is both of those teams could, and probably will, beat any other D3 team in the entire state - including Region 9.

So don't come on here and say how this region is down knowing that ASVSM & TCC are lurking.

Marion Franklin is a good football team, Columbus DeSales is a good football team that handed Clinton Massie its only loss this year ... region 9 is not a bunch of 'Little Sisters of The Poor' ... but the winner will not beat ASVSM or TCC ... so what do you want, a flippin cookie or something?

enjoy getting ready for hoops season in Logan, you're only about 6 days away.

[93Bulldog]

Region 9 is what it is. It will soon play out and then we'll revisit the subject.

Exactly. Region 9 is what it is. Which is an average region that is not loaded, nor is not weak. It's on par with the majority of regions in the state of Ohio.

The only thing that is obviously weak this year was the SEOAL!!!!

When Warren beat Gallia, it just showed how down the league really was this season. I mean Meigs hammered Warren 43-18 and they would probably beat Gallia too. Athens absolutely blasted its 3 SEOAL opponents and outscored Jackson, Gallia and Warren 153-25!!!

Your league champion, Logan, beat the 4th best team in the TVC-Ohio 14-12. That is just sorry.

I would seriously consider putting the SEOAL behind the TVC-Hocking. You don't have a single team in the league that could beat Wahama or Trimble - and I think even Southern would give half the teams a good game.

[Paladin]

To "remind " you, there are a host of teams much better thsan Athens , even in their own region. Statewide, Pasteur ranks a Top 15 in D-III. Athens isn't there. The last team ( 15) ranks in with an almost 128. Athens is under that and other D-III teams by quite a bit on a state wide basis at 122.7 . I won't argue TCC & ASVSM are the best D-III teams, but there are LOTS of D-IIIs better than Athens in the state and at least 5 better in their own region, the weakest in the state.

I like chocolate chip.

[Paladin]

I also know Athens didn't beat the 2013 SEOAL Champ.

Hiding in the hills after running from the SEOAL as we all know !

[93Bulldog]

Drew Pasteur also said Wheelersburg would beat Valley by 2 touchdowns. I don't give a rats behind what some web site/analyst says or thinks.
If his numbers are right, why does the harbin system rank Athens #2?
Why do the AP voters have Athens ranked 5th in the entire state?

BECAUSE IT'S ALL HOGWASH!!!

Drew Pasteur ... get out of here with that junk ... that guy said Springfield Shawnee would win 42-28 over Athens last year - and I laughed at him then and I laugh at him now.

[93Bulldog]

I also know Athens didn't beat the 2013 SEOAL Champ.

Thank goodness we didn't play.

Coach Adams and I both grew up, and played in an era, when Athens hated Logan ... he may have not called the 'Dogs off and put up 100 on the Chieftains.

[93Bulldog]

I learned my lesson on this 'perception', 'ranking of teams', 'strength of schedule' crap clear back in 2002.

Portsmouth West was an 8 seed in what you would have called a weak southeast region, Paladin. They head over to Zanesville to play Youngstown Ursuline in the final 4, who had Daryl Carter (Penn State) and Louis Izzary (Ohio State), and EVERYONE said West was going to get killed because (a) they played a weak schedule and their region was weak and (2) they were a southeast Ohio team playing one of the 'big dogs' from up north.

West ended up wining by a 13-7 margin. But I was their - and to this day I have yet to see a beat down like the one the Senators gave Ursuline that night. They basically physically punished that team from the opening kickoff until the final whistle blew.

And if Drew Pasteur was around back then, he probably would have had Ursuline winning something like 48-7. You can't judge a teams heart, toughness and will to win by sitting behind some darn computer.

[doubleplay643]

Double-- no need to blow my horn. Locos and much of the Logan crowd know who I am. Former Logan player - All- SEOAL, All SEO. Former assistant coach at Logan ( where we lost only one game while I was there)

Yes, all knowing and all wise one, it didn't take me long to figure out who you were. My days there were spent with some of the WLGN crowd and Friday night announcers so a couple years ago when I visited SEOP it was pretty obvious who most of everyone was...that was the reason I gave you the multiple choice and selected "D".

Glad you are taking credit as an assistant coach for Logan's success in those years, but omitted any factual record when you headed north to was it Perry Co or Muskingum Co as a head coach...did you forget that one lol?

Do us a favor and click on the Huddle north division forum for the next year or so and leave Region 9, 17, and 21 discussions to folks who actually reside in and have kids or grandkids playing in these schools.

Thanks

[catsandbucks]

Very telling. I don't expect Athens to last very long.

You said this last year.

look forward to proving you wrong again.

I02... on jjhuddle NORTH forum - they have a complete breakdown for region 9 ... 20 or so different scenarios.

How did they prove anyone wrong last year? You cannot claim that Athens was the 2nd best team in the region last year even though they were Regional runner up. It all depends on who gets in and the matchup. If Athens got Chillicothe round 1, Logan Elm Round 2 and Marion Franklin round 3 instead of Desales round 1, New Philly round 2 and possibly Marion Franklin round 3, Bulldog you don't feel it would make a difference to how long their playoff run is.

If they drew Thurgood last year week 11, we would all be on here talking about another SEO team that made the playoffs by playing a weaker schedule and not winning in the post season. If you would have come within 30 of the regional game you could have made a case.

[93Bulldog]

I guess you're right. I mean, Springfield Shawnee was just the defending state runner-up. Had a 225 lb division1 tailback. Had just beaten Kettering Alter, whose quarterback was going to Notre Dame.

You can twist and turn the seeding's and match-ups all you want. The fact is Athens was one of 8 remaining teams playing in Division 3 last year - and actually played Thurgood a little better than the score indicated.

"What if you played Thurgood Marshall in week 11" ... that what if game is ridicules. Uh, what if Trimble had lost to Nelsonville-York last year, dropped a few places in Region 23 and had to play Newark Catholic in the 1st round? Does that diminish what kind of team they were? How good they were? No!

[93Bulldog]

How did they prove anyone wrong last year?

Paladin said Athens wouldn't win a playoff game.

Athens won 2.

hence; proving him wrong.

[Pol pot]

They are living off smaller schools and weenie programs. Just a fact.

Here is a fact your constant use of the word weenie and all the petty vitriolic nonsense that spews from your postings leads me to believe you are:

A) Compensating for something
B) Were never very good as a player in SEO
C) Were not very good as a coach in the SEOAL
D) All of the above

My guess...."D".

I'm going with D

[Paladin]

Double -- you know nothing about me. Nothing. That's why you asked, lol. I gave you minimal info. You don't know how many schools or where I coached and if you did, you'd know about the titles and fame. But you don't know. You are clueless. Thanks for playing.

93 --You didn't get out of the region and won't this year either. Live with it, lol. Everyone knows the Athens story. Ran from the SEOAL after so many butt-whippings and now feast on warmed over dead bodies of smaller weaker schools of the TVC. But playoff time ?

Enjoy ! 8)

[93Bulldog]

Ran from the SEOAL after so many butt-whippings and now feast on warmed over dead bodies of smaller weaker schools of the TVC.

or they knew one day the TVC could, and would, be better than the SEOAL.

which is exactly what happened.

sorry dude, but the SEOAL was one of the weakest leagues in SEO this year.

you're just going to have to live with that.

[Paladin]

Fear the Bullpuppies !

[loganlocos]

Ran from the SEOAL after so many butt-whippings and now feast on warmed over dead bodies of smaller weaker schools of the TVC.

or they knew one day the TVC could, and would, be better than the SEOAL.

which is exactly what happened.

sorry dude, but the SEOAL was one of the weakest leagues in SEO this year.

you're just going to have to live with that.

Fact check.

The SEOAL was SOOOO weak that Athens would have more playoff points by beating the 5 SEOAL teams than they would from beating their 5 TVC-Ohio opponents.

The 5 SEOAL teams combine for 104.5 Second level points and 26 First level points.

Athens' 5 TVC-Ohio opponents combine for 85 Second level points and 23.5 First level points.

The SEOAL still has one more non-league game (which they shouldn't get points from) left while TVC-Ohio teams will only split points.

If it weren't for the SEOAL, Athens would have a hard time getting into the playoffs. Imagine if the SEOAL were actually good and Athens weren't guaranteed three wins in the first four weeks? They certainly would have a hard time hosting and might even be on the outside looking in like the Dover/New Philly loser.


Yes, the SEOAL is weak. Probably the weakest it has been in 20+ years. But it still would have given Athens more playoff points than the TVC-Ohio.

[doubleplay643]

Double -- you know nothing about me. Nothing. That's why you asked, lol. I gave you minimal info. You don't know how many schools or where I coached and if you did, you'd know about the titles and fame

Fame?

It has been too long for me to remember exactly where you landed, but for some reason Crooksville or Rosecrans or somewhere like that sticks in my mind lol, but I really don't care what you think.

As some people age they become petty. Some become delusional in their "importance". Some become small-minded and mind numbing.

You have captured all of the above, and I will no longer let my posts on this topic go "off topic" with your nonsense.

I think in Region 9 out of the true "SEO" teams, that Athens will fare better than Chillicothe and I look forward to seeing that underdog mentality and heart come to Week 11, 12 and 13 and wish the Bulldogs and Cavaliers success in their efforts.