DIV 4 Northwest Sectional Seeding Predictions

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I never mentioned anything about Huntington St. Joe either. No, you didn't give numbers, then or now. Yes, Clay beat South Webster. Yes, South Webster beat East a month ago. South Webster, on the right nights can give teams in this sectional fits, as they did with East. Using that logic though, East beat ND and Eastern twice! Both of which have beaten Clay.

My standing argument is/has been this. East has a better record against the other teams (especially at the top) in this sectional than any team. No hypotheticals, no subjective claims, no bias. East is 7-2 against the teams in this sectional. 5-1 against the projected top 5 seeds. Which team has a better resume than that against this same pool of opponents?

On a side note, this thread is at 5 pages and nearly 4,000 views! Love the interest in this sectional. Not sure that this sectional has had this quality/depth of teams in quite some time. Regardless of the seeding, the people who go out to Northwest in a few weeks will get their money's worth of exciting basketball.


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asb wrote:I was saying clay would have 4 Ls if they did play St Joe..i know they could not beat them...had East played Clays Schedule then they may only have 1 lose...possibly 2...Last year Clay handled their business,won the league and got the seeding they deserved.....this year is different,clay didn't handle their business in league play and East has. I still believe Clay last year was a better team than Clay this year(my opinion) . On neutral floor I believe East beats Clay. The tournament is on a neutral floor...better hope Clay beats Peebles or ND in the first round of sectionals
I don't recall you watching your son play against Clay at their place, that must be why your stating you have them on a neutral floor. Blaine Scott for East was irrelevant due to Clay controlling the pace of the game on the big court, and Clay's zone completely shut down Akia Brown. Clay got to a slow start at the beginning of the season but has stepped but in all cylinders just in time for tournament. Anyone at that game can't say that East is better than Clay at the moment. Sure they struggled at the beginning of the season, but they are ready to go now. And as goes for other teams, I believe Western has a good as shot as anyone and could be a dangerous draw for one of the higher seeds. They lost to east by a last second shot, as well as to Clay. They were also tied with Eastern going into the 4th. So much excitement for this sectional, so many opinions, which all will be answered with time


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EAST will be the 1 seed end of discussion. Lets talk about 2-11 now!


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JustPlayBasketball12 wrote:EAST will be the 1 seed end of discussion. Lets talk about 2-11 now!

Hopefully you don't put your money where your mouth is because I'm betting they wont.


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How won't they be? Clay will not be the 1 seed. and if East isn't the 1 seed, what seed are they? The only key win Clay has is against East and SW. East has beat Eastern twice, ND twice, and Clay once. Just because SW beat East everybody thinks they are world beaters. The best seed Clay will get is a 2 seed, depending on what happens tonight against ND. People are here talking about SW deserving a better seed, why not Peebles? Peebles place tough competition in the SHAC and their losses are against top teams. So I think Peebles isn't getting much love on here. I am done with this #1 seed


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Whoever the 2 seed is with likely have to play Webster or Western. Very tough seed to get


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JustPlayBasketball12 wrote:How won't they be? Clay will not be the 1 seed. and if East isn't the 1 seed, what seed are they? The only key win Clay has is against East and SW. East has beat Eastern twice, ND twice, and Clay once. Just because SW beat East everybody thinks they are world beaters. The best seed Clay will get is a 2 seed, depending on what happens tonight against ND. People are here talking about SW deserving a better seed, why not Peebles? Peebles place tough competition in the SHAC and their losses are against top teams. So I think Peebles isn't getting much love on here. I am done with this #1 seed
It's all up to how the coaches vote. We can all sit here and talk about it, unfortunately our opinions don't matter lol. I'm going to GUESS that the coaches don't vote East the #1. But I have no clue. I'm sure East will vote themselves the #1. I can guarantee that. But Clay will vote themselves the #1. Peebles will probably vote themselves the #1. Eastern Pike may vote themselves the #1. Who knows!! :shock: :shock:


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Spectator555 wrote:
asb wrote:I was saying clay would have 4 Ls if they did play St Joe..i know they could not beat them...had East played Clays Schedule then they may only have 1 lose...possibly 2...Last year Clay handled their business,won the league and got the seeding they deserved.....this year is different,clay didn't handle their business in league play and East has. I still believe Clay last year was a better team than Clay this year(my opinion) . On neutral floor I believe East beats Clay. The tournament is on a neutral floor...better hope Clay beats Peebles or ND in the first round of sectionals
I don't recall you watching your son play against Clay at their place, that must be why your stating you have them on a neutral floor. Blaine Scott for East was irrelevant due to Clay controlling the pace of the game on the big court, and Clay's zone completely shut down Akia Brown. Clay got to a slow start at the beginning of the season but has stepped but in all cylinders just in time for tournament. Anyone at that game can't say that East is better than Clay at the moment. Sure they struggled at the beginning of the season, but they are ready to go now. And as goes for other teams, I believe Western has a good as shot as anyone and could be a dangerous draw for one of the higher seeds. They lost to east by a last second shot, as well as to Clay. They were also tied with Eastern going into the 4th. So much excitement for this sectional, so many opinions, which all will be answered with time
Slow start? That same group of kids have been playing together since 1st grade. They have Great Chemistry and they out played East at their place. Like I said probably Clays best game all Year and Probably East worst game all year. Thats just jow it is...if you want to crown Clay for just that 1 win and East only conference Loss then Crown them but they (Clay) are who I think they are and thats bout the 4th or 5th best team in this sectional. Like I said though on any given night if shots are fallen any team could beat any team in this sectional. Including NB....thats just how the game of basketball goes...and by the way I was at the Clay game at Clay....Clay was on Fire(everyone) and Clay was getting Every Call. From start to finish. They wont play like that every game.....but you better hope because if they get knocked the first game of sectional you will wish you never were so sure lol


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asb wrote:
Spectator555 wrote:
asb wrote:I was saying clay would have 4 Ls if they did play St Joe..i know they could not beat them...had East played Clays Schedule then they may only have 1 lose...possibly 2...Last year Clay handled their business,won the league and got the seeding they deserved.....this year is different,clay didn't handle their business in league play and East has. I still believe Clay last year was a better team than Clay this year(my opinion) . On neutral floor I believe East beats Clay. The tournament is on a neutral floor...better hope Clay beats Peebles or ND in the first round of sectionals
I don't recall you watching your son play against Clay at their place, that must be why your stating you have them on a neutral floor. Blaine Scott for East was irrelevant due to Clay controlling the pace of the game on the big court, and Clay's zone completely shut down Akia Brown. Clay got to a slow start at the beginning of the season but has stepped but in all cylinders just in time for tournament. Anyone at that game can't say that East is better than Clay at the moment. Sure they struggled at the beginning of the season, but they are ready to go now. And as goes for other teams, I believe Western has a good as shot as anyone and could be a dangerous draw for one of the higher seeds. They lost to east by a last second shot, as well as to Clay. They were also tied with Eastern going into the 4th. So much excitement for this sectional, so many opinions, which all will be answered with time
Slow start? That same group of kids have been playing together since 1st grade. They have Great Chemistry and they out played East at their place. Like I said probably Clays best game all Year and Probably East worst game all year. Thats just jow it is...if you want to crown Clay for just that 1 win and East only conference Loss then Crown them but they (Clay) are who I think they are and thats bout the 4th or 5th best team in this sectional. Like I said though on any given night if shots are fallen any team could beat any team in this sectional. Including NB....thats just how the game of basketball goes...and by the way I was at the Clay game at Clay....Clay was on Fire(everyone) and Clay was getting Every Call. From start to finish. They wont play like that every game.....but you better hope because if they get knocked the first game of sectional you will wish you never were so sure lol
Dennis Green sighting!! LOL


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Where is the ND and Clay game tonight? Well since Clay is playing their best ball it should not even be a game, especially considering the fact East has Blown ND out 2 times


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if clay beats ND I think clay will be the #1 seed and they would deserve it they have best record if ND wins I look for the top 4 seeds to all be from the soc1 not sure in what order if ND loses I think peebles will be the #4 seed. top 7 seeds could see 6 teams from the soc with Webster from the big division.


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brown22 wrote:if clay beats ND I think clay will be the #1 seed and they would deserve it they have best record if ND wins I look for the top 4 seeds to all be from the soc1 not sure in what order if ND loses I think peebles will be the #4 seed. top 7 seeds could see 6 teams from the soc with Webster from the big division.
Peebles will be in the top 6 easily. I see them being the #1 or #2.


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If ND loses tonight they will be the 5 seed. If they win tonight and Friday, they may have a chance at the 3 seed. But like Colonel Sanders stated is all about how the coaches vote and if they see a match up they like. I just think nobody wants the 2 or 3 seed. You will either get Western or Webster. I would take my chances at Western than Webster. It's all about match ups.

1. East
2. Clay
3. Eastern
4. Peebles
5. ND
6. Webster
7. Western
8. Fairfield
9. Manchester
10. Whiteoak
11. New Boston

East/Clay could flip but I just do not see it happening even if Clay beats ND. May the best team get the 1 seed.


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I don't think it matter where you are seeded in this sectional unless your one of the top 3 seeds and there only advantage is because they have a bye into the finals but any of the top 6-8 teams can beat each other it's gonna be a sectional full of great games


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:)
bbjunky81 wrote:
brown22 wrote:if clay beats ND I think clay will be the #1 seed and they would deserve it they have best record if ND wins I look for the top 4 seeds to all be from the soc1 not sure in what order if ND loses I think peebles will be the #4 seed. top 7 seeds could see 6 teams from the soc with Webster from the big division.
Peebles will be in the top 6 easily. I see them being the #1 or #2.
they definitely will be in the top 6 don't think at #1 or #2 I'm guessing the #4 they have 4 loses right now with one to eastern just have to wait and see who wins and loses this week.


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So what is the end game here? The #1 and #2 will avoid South Gallia and Trimble in the opener at the Convo? Who all is even at Meigs?

South Gallia
Trimble
Waterford
Eastern
Southern
Miller
Belpre
Fed Hock
Green
Symmes Valley
St. Joe

Did I miss anyone?


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What are the records for Western, South Webster? Fairfield is 8-9. Why are they behind these other two teams. They play a tougher strength of schedule than Western. Didn't Western have a better record last year and get beat by 20 points the first game of tourney. South Webster plays several Div 3 teams. So does Peebles, Fairfield, Manchester and Whiteoak.


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Crab's Brother wrote:So what is the end game here? The #1 and #2 will avoid South Gallia and Trimble in the opener at the Convo? Who all is even at Meigs?

South Gallia
Trimble
Waterford
Eastern
Southern
Miller
Belpre
Fed Hock
Green
Symmes Valley
St. Joe

Did I miss anyone?
I don't think anyone in the front 8 or 9 really care about who they draw in the next round. If they're trying to avoid anyone, it's probably Trimble? South Gallia is very beatable (they haven't played Trimble yet this year).


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inthepaint wrote:What are the records for Western, South Webster? Fairfield is 8-9. Why are they behind these other two teams. They play a tougher strength of schedule than Western. Didn't Western have a better record last year and get beat by 20 points the first game of tourney. South Webster plays several Div 3 teams. So does Peebles, Fairfield, Manchester and Whiteoak.

Who has Fairfield beat? Any quality wins? Any wins vs. teams that are over .500?

If two teams both have "strong" schedules they typically go by key wins. Looking over Fairfield's schedule I can't determine what quality win(s) they would have had?


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How can you say that Fairfield plays a better schedule. Western plays 13-3 Clay 2 times, 13-5 Eastern Pike 2 times, 13-4 Portsmouth East 2 times, as well as 12-4 Notre Dame 2 times. Not to mention 12-4 Peebles. To say that Fairfield plays a tougher without any proof isn't really fair to western. I realize they play some d 3 schools, but how many of those schools have defining winning records against division 3 teams. The only ones I know of are North Adams and Lynchburg and maybe Eastern Brown.


If everyone is so worried about playing Western or Webster then maybe all teams should put Western and Webster at the 4, 5 game and let them duke it out again...


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