Portsmouth AT Wheelersburg Jan 5th

drrabbit · Post by **drrabbit** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:55 pm

Tournament games:

1978 Portsmouth 54-52 (OT)
1983 Portsmouth 66-59 (OT)
1984 Wheelersburg 73-66 (OT)
1987 Portsmouth 59-54
2006 Wheelersburg 72-48
2007 Wheelersburg 54-33

Have I mis-typed/missed anything in the last 50 years?

Over that time it is 15-11 in favor of Wheelersburg...
I have not collected any data pre-1958-59 but there may have been some tournament games during that time.

Burg_Grad_77 · Post by **Burg_Grad_77** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:33 am

I have not collected any data pre-1958-59 but there may have been some tournament games during that time.

I'd be surprised if they played before then in the tourney since I'm sure Portsmouth was a much bigger school than the Burg then and would have been in a higher classification.

yabbadabbadoo · Post by **yabbadabbadoo** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:00 am

drrabbit wrote:Tournament games:

1978 Portsmouth 54-52
1983 Portsmouth 66-59 (OT)
1984 Wheelersburg 73-66 (OT)
1987 Portsmouth 59-54
2006 Wheelersburg 72-48
2007 Wheelersburg 54-33

Have I mis-typed/missed anything in the last 50 years?

Over that time it is 15-11 in favor of Wheelersburg...
I have not collected any data pre-1958-59 but there may have been some tournament games during that time.

Wasn't the game in 1978, double overtime? I remember it was played out at Valley and everyone was saying that was the real game for the state title, which Portsmouth went on and won that year.

NICKNEVADA · Post by **NICKNEVADA** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:34 am

Burg 71-68

drrabbit · Post by **drrabbit** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:02 pm

Burg Grad 77= In the late 1950's they were in the same division as there were only two divisions for the county tournament= Schools over 150 and schools under 150. Wheelersburg maded the 150 cut off. Many times in the 50's the Pirates would have played Portsmouth in the tournament if they just could have won one more game--or just one game... LOL.

I need to do more research if I want to address pre 1958 though.

There are two stories that I want to research about why Wheelersburg football stopped having a program until around 1950 and why Wheelersburg and East were barred from playing each other in basketball for years.

trojandave · Post by **trojandave** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:26 pm

drrabbit: Thanks for the info on the series between WHS and PHS.

Portsmouth was in the big school classification prior to 1978, and the first meeting in the postseason between the two was the 1978 sectional, which was a classic. There were 3 classes between 1970-1977, and PHS was AAA.

Before 1970, there were only 2 classes and Portsmouth was in Class AA, which was for the bigger schools. It is interesting that Wheelersburg was in the same class as Portsmouth. I know there had to be a big discrepancy in enrollment between the two schools.

As far as South Webster's state appearances, I made the mistake of thinking that they played in the Final 4 in 2005. Sportsfan 1959 was right, it was 2004; I looked in the 2007 state tournament program. Africentric defeated SW in the Columbus regional in 2005, and then was disqualified for using an ineligible player after they had defeated Cleveland Lutheran East in the championship game.

trojandave · Post by **trojandave** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:39 pm

Looks like the Burg has an 8 game winning streak vs. the Trojans, including the back to back tourney wins in 06 and 07.

As far as watching the Trojans win at the Burg, looking at the series record, I think the 79 game was at WHS, which was the last time Portsmouth won at Wheelersburg. I do believe I was at that game.

biggdowgg · Post by **biggdowgg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:32 pm

"If" I go to this game, I am going to try and show up early, so I can sit on the stage behind, Burg_Grad77.

I got some left over Christmas cookies :twisted:

yabbadabbadoo · Post by **yabbadabbadoo** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:10 pm

I think the stage will be half blocked off for the players from the 82, 84 and 89 state teams.

I think that is what they did for the last dedication

biggdowgg · Post by **biggdowgg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:41 pm

yabbadabbadoo wrote:I think the stage will be half blocked off for the players from the 82, 84 and 89 state teams.

I think that is what they did for the last dedication

well, I can still get him from acros the floor

drrabbit · Post by **drrabbit** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:41 pm

Now all you have to do is get there a little bit EARLIER than planned and sit on the SAME half of the stage that Burggrad 77 sits on.

But the cookies HAVE to be no-bakes!

biggdowgg · Post by **biggdowgg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:58 pm

thanks

drrabbit · Post by **drrabbit** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:13 am

Yabba--I looked it up and 1978 was only single overtime. Rod Spradlin, Scott Gray and Dave Pyles were on that squad.

Burg_Grad_77 · Post by **Burg_Grad_77** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:24 am

biggdowgg, unfortunately I won't be there because I have to work. I was really looking forward to those Christmas cookies too. You could throw some at my brother burgbomb. He likes a good cookie or two every now and then. You can't miss his big white bald head. It should make a good target. :lol:

As for the stage being blocked off, they only did that for the ceremony and the JV game at the first one for the 95', 06', and 07' teams. I got there right before the varsity game started (because I thought the ceremony would be at the half) and there was plenty of room to sit on the stage.

Mad-Dogg · Post by **Mad-Dogg** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:50 am

Burg_Grad_77 wrote:biggdowgg, unfortunately I won't be there because I have to work. I was really looking forward to those Christmas cookies too. You could throw some at my brother burgbomb. He likes a good cookie or two every now and then. You can't miss his big white bald head. It should make a good target.

As for the stage being blocked off, they only did that for the ceremony and the JV game at the first one for the 95', 06', and 07' teams. I got there right before the varsity game started (because I thought the ceremony would be at the half) and there was plenty of room to sit on the stage.

i'm gonna try to film the ceremony with my camera. i'll bring a copy by your house so u can see it if you want

TheMalteseFalcon · Post by **TheMalteseFalcon** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:03 am

trojandave wrote:maltese falcon: The FACT that I stated was that Anthony Williams would be missing the game vs. the Burg. I then stated an OPINION that I felt the Chillicothe game would have been closer, and then I stated another OPINION that we would have beaten South Point.

I did add a few OPINIONS to the FACTS that I stated.

Your previous post says NOTHING about OPINIONS at all. It said, and I quote..."Not making excuses at all, just stating facts......." and those are far from all being facts. Quit back-peddling. :oops:

TheMalteseFalcon · Post by **TheMalteseFalcon** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:41 am

drrabbit wrote:Burg Grad 77= In the late 1950's they were in the same division as there were only two divisions for the county tournament= Schools over 150 and schools under 150. Wheelersburg maded the 150 cut off. Many times in the 50's the Pirates would have played Portsmouth in the tournament if they just could have won one more game--OR JUST ONE GAME... LOL.
I need to do more research if I want to address pre 1958 though.

Doc,
That was a low blow ("..OR JUST ONE GAME") on something you admittedly know nothing about. You may be surprised when you do your pre '58 research. The county teams weren't all that bad then. The little "Mighty Minford Falcons" even beat Portsmouth back in the early 50's with guys like Ron Coriell, Jim and Ed Gilbert, etc. Wheelersburg had some decent teams with guys like Glen Baldridge, Dick Bays, Ed Miller, Luke Green, etc. Wheelersburg even played Chillicothe in the finals in Athens in the '56-'57 (I think) season. Portsmouth must have gotten blown away much earlier in the tournament as the last four teams in that tournament in Athens were Belpre, Lucasville Valley, Chillicothe and Wheelersburg. Chillicothe beat Valley and Wheelersburg beat Belpre the first week. Then Chillicothe beat Wheelersburg in the finals with a hugh (at that time) center whose name I believe was Mickey Gordon

TrojanFan_#1 · Post by **TrojanFan_#1** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:03 pm

GO, FIGHT, WIN, TROJANS!!!!! What's the word????? BEAT THE BURG!!!

biggdowgg · Post by **biggdowgg** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:06 am

GAME DAY!!!!

GO TROJANS!!!

trojandave · Post by **trojandave** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:29 am

maltese falcon: I stated what were the facts.....Anthony Williams would be missing the game, and that we were not at full strength.

There's no back peddling at all......what I posted were opinions and facts.....I don't see why you have such a problem with what I wrote. It was my understanding that when someone read my post, that there were statements that would be interpreted as opinions based on the wording alone. I didn't think it was necessary to specify each opinion and each fact.

Basically I thought it to be a rather benign post, not intending to offend anyone. Obviously for some reason it struck a nerve with you........