WWE: IS FLAIR EVER GOING TO GET BEAT???

2trap_4ever · Post by **2trap_4ever** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:15 pm

Flair loses at WM, and will come out the following night at Raw and introduce the new 4 horsemen in which he will be the leader out of the ring

Tigercannon71 · Post by **Tigercannon71** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:53 pm

grizzly wrote:Christian is not the problem, he is really good. the problem is the Dudleys, Sting, Jarret, and even Angle to some extent. TNA wants old WWE guys no matter how good they are. that's why TNA is horrible right now. if they went back to having Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and others being the top dog, they would be better than WWE.

TNA's problem is Jeff Jarrett and Vince Russo. Also the annouce team is horrible. Angle wants it to be more real with more clean wins and less DQ's and run in. They are getting away from wrestling and trying to compete with the WWE on storylines. Which the ones they come up with are horrible or they start and abrutly drop with no mention of them again.

grizzly · Post by **grizzly** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:43 pm

TNA's problem is Jeff Jarrett and Vince Russo. Also the annouce team is horrible. Angle wants it to be more real with more clean wins and less DQ's and run in. They are getting away from wrestling and trying to compete with the WWE on storylines. Which the ones they come up with are horrible or they start and abrutly drop with no mention of them again.

TNA wants to be WWE plain and simple. they sign all of the WWE washups, and make stupid/boring storylines.

TNA should stop trying to be like WWE, and go back to what got them there .TNA has more talent than WWE on their roster. Joe, Styles, Daniels, Sabin, and Shelly are better than anyone in WWE, with maybe the exception of HBK.

Tigercannon71 · Post by **Tigercannon71** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:01 pm

grizzly wrote:
TNA's problem is Jeff Jarrett and Vince Russo. Also the annouce team is horrible. Angle wants it to be more real with more clean wins and less DQ's and run in. They are getting away from wrestling and trying to compete with the WWE on storylines. Which the ones they come up with are horrible or they start and abrutly drop with no mention of them again.

TNA wants to be WWE plain and simple. they sign all of the WWE washups, and make stupid/boring storylines.

TNA should stop trying to be like WWE, and go back to what got them there .TNA has more talent than WWE on their roster. Joe, Styles, Daniels, Sabin, and Shelly are better than anyone in WWE, with maybe the exception of HBK.

Are you serious? Take out those 5 and the ex WWE guys and who do they got? The only other decent guys they got is LAX, Abyss, and Eric Young. They seriously lack for talent. You think Lance"I suck worse than Test" Hoyt is a talent or Jimmy Rave or SharkBoy. Which WWE guys are washed up? Maybe if they gave them a decent storylines they could do something with it. Those guys along with the 5 you mentioned are keeping people watching not the rest of the so called talent.

LegendKiller1989 · Post by **LegendKiller1989** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:08 am

grizzly wrote:
TNA's problem is Jeff Jarrett and Vince Russo. Also the annouce team is horrible. Angle wants it to be more real with more clean wins and less DQ's and run in. They are getting away from wrestling and trying to compete with the WWE on storylines. Which the ones they come up with are horrible or they start and abrutly drop with no mention of them again.

TNA wants to be WWE plain and simple. they sign all of the WWE washups, and make stupid/boring storylines.

TNA should stop trying to be like WWE, and go back to what got them there .TNA has more talent than WWE on their roster. Joe, Styles, Daniels, Sabin, and Shelly are better than anyone in WWE, with maybe the exception of HBK.

I wouldn't say TNA has more talent than WWE, WWE has alot more but chooses nopt to use some of them. Edge and Orton are awesome as Champions on there brands but WWE needs to give Shelton a title push.

grizzly · Post by **grizzly** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:36 am

the five i said earlier are better than anyone in WWE PERIOD. Christian is better than most WWE guys. Jay Lethal is good.

WWE has HBK (getting old), Taker (getting old), Shelton Benjamin (has never got the push he deserves), CM Punk(has had one good WWE match, but i have seen ROH matches of his that were amazing, and Edge.

Everyone else in WWE is OVERRATED!!! Including Orton, HHH, Cena, Batista, and everyone else on the roster.

You don't see any WWE washups on TNA, ARE YOU BLIND? Dudleys, Rhino, JJ, BG James, Kip James, Goldust(or whatever he's called now), Scott Steiner.are you kidding me. as i said earlier TNA would be better off to get rid of these guys

LegendKiller1989 · Post by **LegendKiller1989** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:53 am

First off Edge is far better than Christan and secondly you forgot about so many people who actually have talent. We Have Ken Kennedy, MVP , Paul London , brian Kendrick , John Morrison, Chris Jericho , Jeff Hardy , Matt Hardy , Carlito and more.

Orton is not overated he actually has talent and could play a good heel.

grizzly · Post by **grizzly** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:39 pm

First off Edge is far better than Christan and secondly you forgot about so many people who actually have talent. We Have Ken Kennedy, MVP , Paul London , brian Kendrick , John Morrison, Chris Jericho , Jeff Hardy , Matt Hardy , Carlito and more.

Orton is not overated he actually has talent and could play a good heel.

WWE has the talent, but they don't use it. TNA at least gives anyone with talent a push.

by the way Kennedy, Morrison,and Carlito are overated

Tigercannon71 · Post by **Tigercannon71** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:57 pm

grizzly wrote:the five i said earlier are better than anyone in WWE PERIOD. Christian is better than most WWE guys. Jay Lethal is good.

WWE has HBK (getting old), Taker (getting old), Shelton Benjamin (has never got the push he deserves), CM Punk(has had one good WWE match, but i have seen ROH matches of his that were amazing, and Edge.

Everyone else in WWE is OVERRATED!!! Including Orton, HHH, Cena, Batista, and everyone else on the roster.

You don't see any WWE washups on TNA, ARE YOU BLIND? Dudleys, Rhino, JJ, BG James, Kip James, Goldust(or whatever he's called now), Scott Steiner.are you kidding me. as i said earlier TNA would be better off to get rid of these guys

Maybe Shelton hasnt gotten the push cause he isnt a hard worker. Carlito if he applied himself could be huge. The Dudleys, Rhyno, and Steiner are more entertaining than half the TNA roster. Wrestling is more than just being able to wrestle you gotta be able to put butts in the seats. Cena, HHH, Orton, and Batista does just that. Sabin, Shelley, Joe, and Styles are athletic and entertaining to watch, but all of them combined cant put the butts in the seats like Cena, HHH, Batista, or Orton.

LegendKiller1989 · Post by **LegendKiller1989** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:16 am

grizzly wrote:
First off Edge is far better than Christan and secondly you forgot about so many people who actually have talent. We Have Ken Kennedy, MVP , Paul London , brian Kendrick , John Morrison, Chris Jericho , Jeff Hardy , Matt Hardy , Carlito and more.

Orton is not overated he actually has talent and could play a good heel.

WWE has the talent, but they don't use it. TNA at least gives anyone with talent a push.

by the way Kennedy, Morrison,and Carlito are overated

Oh yea TNA pushes talent. *Looks at the Main Event Scene, Sees Christan vs Kurt Angle for the world title*

Yep they push Ex wwe talent I think you mean