Region 17

[Crab's Brother]

This region is starting to look ugly. I have said for a couple of weeks that the top 6 teams were in and the 7-8 seeds were not going to be good teams. It is looking like there are now only gonna be 5 teams. I think Ironton may be in trouble. I don't think they will win any of their next 3 and they will have to play well to beat Oak Hill or Raceland.

The biggest winner this week is Portsmouth. 5 wins may get the Trojans in. I don't see them beating Chillicothe, but they have a chance to win the rest of their games and get to 6-4 and that would defiantly get them in.

I have to believe that Fairland will win out or win at least 4 of 5 and they will get in. South Point should get 2 more wins and even they will get close. Having seen the Pointers, they are not a real strong squad.

I don't think Union Local wins another game.

The goal for the top 5 is to still get in the top 3. That 4/5 matchup is going to be a good one. The other 3 matchups are not going to be good at all.

[Trojan_Pride]

hey crabs brother u do good job with these updates on region 17 and 21 keep up the good work!! I have ? region 17 is very weak at bottom 6-7-8 spot, my question is does ironton sneak in if they go 4-6 and beat oak hill raceland ? I know these would be good point wins if they can pull it off.

thanks

[Crab's Brother]

hey crabs brother u do good job with these updates on region 17 and 21 keep up the good work!! I have ? region 17 is very weak at bottom 6-7-8 spot, my question is does ironton sneak in if they go 4-6 and beat oak hill raceland ? I know these would be good point wins if they can pull it off.

thanks

Thanks for the compliments. I enjoy following this. Helps to pass the time at work. :122245 :122245

Looking at spots 6-7-8:

First take the top 5 out of the picture. They are in and just trying to avoid the 4-5 game where they have to play each other.

Looking at Ironton, I don't follow Kentucky football much at all so I am not sure how Russell's season will play out. I have made educated guesses and have them beating Fleming County, Lewis County, and East Carter. I have Amanda only beating Fairfield Union and finishing 2-8. So, I have them at 39.5 2nd level on already defeated opponents.

If Oak Hill wins out (other than Ironton - ND will be a tough one) they will be worth 32 points.

Again, not knowing much of KY football, I have Raceland beating Nicholas County. Maybe someone can help me here if they should win more games than that. Joe Eitel doesn't have a region listed for Raceland but they were considered D5 last year, so I will consider them D6 now. Based on those projections, a Raceland win would be worth 21.5 points.

This would put Ironton at about 11.1 for a final Harbin average.

Now we must look at the rest of the region.

Southeastern is sitting there at 6th but they look less than impressive. Blown out by ZT and a few close wins against marginal (at best) teams. Let's say Southeastern loses this week and then runs the table. That makes them 7-3 and I would project them to finish with an average of 11.65. I don't know if they are good enough to win 7, but if they do, they would probably finish ahead of Ironton.

South Point is 7th and having seen them this week, I think they will win 2 maybe 3 more depending if Peake has packed it in or not. I have them losing to Fairland and Coal Grove. That would put them at 7-3. With 3 wins coming from out of state teams, it is hard to predict there 2nd level points, but it doesn't look far fetched to say that those 3 will combine to go 0-30. The Pointers may have 7 wins and 4 of them against teams that go 0-10. That would give them an average of around 7 something. Unless the Pointers knock off Grove or Fairland or get some of their out of state defeated opponents to start winning a few, they will not be near the top 8.

Fairland has played a pretty good schedule and should be tested enough to run the OVC table. 5-0 in the league gets them to 7-3 and an average around 15. Even if they lose to Grove, Fairland will still be close to 13. I think Fairland is in unless they lose to Grove and Meigs falls apart and doesn't win any more games.

I don't think Union Local will win again. If they beat Bellaire and Monroe Central runs the table, they will be back in the conversation, but I don't see them getting a 4th win.

I think Portsmouth is going to make a run. There 3 losses are to 15-0 teams. I don't see them beating Chillicothe. I think they have a chance to win the rest. If they win 6 and lose to Chilly, they are in. 6 wins gets them to about 15.5 points. If the Trojans are able to get to 5-5 (with losses to GA and Chilly) I have them about 11.4 points. Them and Ironton will be very close if that is the case. If the Trojans win the next 2, they are in a great spot to make the postseason.

Northwest will not win another game.

Wellston may get one more win. They are not gonna be in the conversation.

Waverly may have one win left on their schedule (Northwest).

If Zane Trace or Westfall ran the table and won the SVC, they could get back into the race, but I don't see either happening.

In summation, I believe if Ironton beats Oak Hill and Raceland they will get in. My way too early prediction:

1. St. Clairsville
1. Hartley
1. Wheelersburg
1. Martins Ferry
1. Liberty Union

***I have not looked through the top 5 so I have no clue how they end up.

6. Fairland (7-3)
7. Portsmouth (5-5)
8. Ironton (4-6)

[Trojan_Pride]

thanks for the update!! I will check back with you after week 8 for update

[SPAMONY]

Having seen both play I think Oak Hill beats Ironton by 1-2 scores

[Crab's Brother]

Having seen both play I think Oak Hill beats Ironton by 1-2 scores

That may very well be true.

Ironton will come into that game fresh off 3 murderous games while Oak Hill has Symmes Valley in week 8.

[Region 15]

Although not near then team of last season, ST.C. is still a very good team and probably finish at 10-0. With the exception of U.L. and Buckeye Local the other Buckeye 8 teams should finish at or better the 500 giving St.C. huge points, especially IC and Ferry.

[Region 15]

Reporting from a local Sports site is saying Brown from St.C. has a torn MCL and is out!

[StCRedDevils]

Reporting from a local Sports site is saying Brown from St.C. has a torn MCL and is out!

We'll have to wait and see about this. Jaylon posted on his twitter account Saturday that he was fine. I think I would take words from the source vs rumors. I hope all is well with Jaylon. He is a great young man and has a bright future.

[Region 15]

St.CRed Devils, I really hope Jalen is not seriously injured. I'm a Bellaire guy but I clearly don't wish or want anything bad to happen to any athlete. I believe that he is and has proven to be one of the better running backs in Ohio(D5). He brings pride into this area of Belmont County for all towns and schools.

[Fan of The Blue and Gold]

This week's overall record for Region 17 teams was 11-16. Once again 5 of those wins and 5 of those loses were against other Region 17 teams. So Region 17 teams went 6-11 against teams from other Regions. That makes Region 17 teams' record against other Regions, 47-69 (40.5%). After 6 games there is only 6 teams in the entire region with winning records. The fewest of the 4 Div-5 regions. But there are a number of teams that stand at 3-3. I stated this summer if teams went 6-4 or 7-3 they would most likely make the playoffs in the region. Some fans that believed this was a tough region disagreed with that statement. As of right now it is playing out that way. It will be interesting to see how the next 4 weeks go.

[Jesco White]

I think this is a very top heavy region, which makes it both a strong region and a weak region lol By that I just mean the top 5-6 teams are very stout, where as the rest of the region falls off tremendously after that. I think that seems to be a trend in several regions with the new alignment though.

[Fan of The Blue and Gold]

Jesco,

Is that a nice way of saying the 7th division watered down the playoffs?

[Jesco White]

Jesco,

Is that a nice way of saying the 7th division watered down the playoffs?

Yeah I think so. Hopefully it will end up making things stronger in the long run, but I think it's probably just something that benefitted the larger schools more so than creating any more balance within the smaller schools. Then again it's possible that my opinion is based more on my lack of seeing much football outside our area lol

[nice guy]

7 divisions which means each region is watered down a lot.
Region 17 could have a couple teams get the #7-#8 spots at 5-5 or 4-6.
Those teams may not beat a team with a winning record all season and get in the playoffs.
They will get destroyed by the top teams in the region.
It is all about the OHSAA. $$$$$$$

[kvnchambers]

it's not like this is new teams with 5-5 records or 4-6 records have made the playoffs in the past there are usually a few a year.
there are regions that are extremely tough this year. D-4 region 14 is a great example. there are 20 or 21 teams with a .500 record or better. in a regon that last year you got in with a computer average of about 17.00 a average of 20 may not get you n this year. it probably will as many of those teams will suffer more loses but still it depends on the region.

in region 17 though unless ironton finishes 4-4 and gets i think each team that gets in will still have at least 6 wins but we will have to see. but considering how week this region (old region 15 was last year i am not surprised it is going to take close to the same total to get in. bloom carroll made it at 5-5 last year old region 15

[Burg93]

Interesting that if PWest would move up one position to 7th and the playoffs started now, there would be 3 regular season repeats in the first round: W'Burg-Fairland, LU-PWest, and St. Clairsville-Martins Ferry.

[Crab's Brother]

West is now back in the conversation here. If they are able to beat either Valley or Wheelersburg, they will make the playoffs. At 5-5, they are going to need some help. I have them at 8.65 with a 5-5. I don't think that won't be enough to overtake Southeastern or Zane Trace if either run the table, though it would be pretty close.

For West to make it at 5-5:

They need Peake to beat South Point and hope the 0-18 teams that Point has beaten to continue to lose.
Ironton to lose to either Raceland or Oak Hill.
Portsmouth to lose to Gallia.

[kvnchambers]

think if ironton gets to 4-6 they get in unless zane trace runs the table. i think the other 7 teams are pretty much set unless their is an upset. and the 8 th spot i think is zane trace, portsmouth west, or ironton. wth an outside chance that it is northridge i think south point is 7-3 and not make it. but maybe there in the conversation also.

[Crab's Brother]

think if ironton gets to 4-6 they get in unless zane trace runs the table. i think the other 7 teams are pretty much set unless their is an upset. and the 8 th spot i think is zane trace, portsmouth west, or ironton. wth an outside chance that it is northridge i think south point is 7-3 and not make it. but maybe there in the conversation also.

Are you considering Southeastern as #7?